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"Be ye kind one to another, and to all the creatures of God."
Tibetan Gospel Lection 38 Jesus
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"wherefore i say unto all who desire to be my disciples, keep your hands from bloodshed and let no flesh meat enter your mouths, for God is just and bountiful, who ordaineth that man shall live by the fruits and seeds of the earth alone. But if any animal suffer greatly, and if its life be a misery unto it. or if it be dangerous to you, reliase it from its life quickly, and with as little pain as you can, Send it forth in love and mercy, but torment it not, and God the Father-Mother wil shew mercy unto you, as ye have shown mercy unto those given into your hands. And whatsoever ye do unto the Cast of these my children, ye do it unto me. For I am in them and they are in me, Yea, I am in all creatures and all creatures are in me. In all their joys I rejoice, in all their afflictions I am afflicted." verse 4 - 7
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"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, they who partake of benefits which are gotten by wrongin one of God's creatures, cannot be righteous; nor can they touch holy things, or teach the mysteris fo the kingdom who hands are stained With blood, or show mouths are defiled with flesh. vs 2
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on vegan, animal rights, eating meat!
it is actually written by Paul, if anything he does, seemingly, offends anyone he will stop doing it.
the tibetan new testament compiled by Glenn kimball and translated in the 1880 or 90's seems to say that eating meat is a sin to christ "if the animal is 'slaughtered"'
but the bible says that it is the doctrine of "devils" to forbid to eat meat. which is the true interpretaion and true translation and true tradition.
i am undergoing this debate right now.
if you believe the bible words directly as it is written now, it is not an offense to christians to be vegan unless the person is absolutely rude.
if you believe the tibetan translation which seems to be allegedly translated from a "source" manuscript, than being a vegetarian is more the HOLY way and the HIGHER way of spirituality.
(Rev Gideon Jasper Richard Ousley - 1892)
in the bible it says dont eat anything strangled
or anything offered unto an idol
in the tibetan new testament it says He condemns eating meat or any animal that has been slaughtered.
he also condemns Hunting in this manuscript! (see my earlier posts)
however in the LDS church, he make a finer point about eating meat sparingly and in times of famine.
there is so much abundance why would anyone need to eat meat.
in the doctrine and covenants, i think d&c 89, it specifically says do not drink hot drinks because of the health of the belly. it doesnt say cafience but many mormons assume cafiene while many others drink coke and pepsi.
edit:4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of evils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of conspiring men in the last days, I have warned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation
9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
the word of wisdom is about eating healthy, and it hints at conspiracies of evil intent you should read for yourself
another quote:
And jesus said unto them, Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias speak of you, and your forefathers, saying this People draweth nigh unto Me, with their mouths, and honour me with their lips, but therir heart is far from me, for in vain do they worship Me teaching and believing, and teaching for divine doctrines, the commadments of men in my name but to satisfy their own lusts.
15 As also Jeremiah bear witness when he saith, concerning blood offerings and sacrifices I the Lord God commanded none of these things in the day that ye came out of Egypt, but only this I commanded you to do, reighteousness, walk in the ancient paths, do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with thy God
16 But ye did not hearken to Me, Who in the beginning gave you all manner of seed, and fruit of the trees and seed having been for the food and healing of mand and beast. And they said, Thou speakest against the law.
17And he said against Moses indeed I do not speak nor against the law, but agains them who corrupted his law, which he permitted for the hardness of your hearts. But, behold, a greater than Moses is here! and they were wrath and took up stones to cast at him. And Jesus passed through their midst and was hidden from their violence.
Again it is written, From the rising of the sun unto the setting of the same, my Name shall be great among the Gentiles, and incense with apure Offering shall be offered unto me. But ye have made it a desolation with your offerings of blood and used the sweet incense only to cover the ill savour thereof. I am come not to destroy the law but to fulfil it.
8 Know ye not what is written? Obedience is better than sacrifice and to hearken than the fat of rams. I, the Lord, am weary of your burnt offerings, and vain oblations, your hands are full of blood.
9 And is it not written, what is the true sacrifice? Wash you and make you clean and put away the evil from before mine eyes, cease to do evil, learn to do well. Do justice for the fatherless and the widow and all athare oppressed. So doing ye shall fulfil the law.
10. The day cometh when all that which is in the outer court, which pertaineth to blood offerigs, shall be taken away ad pure worshippers shall worship the Eternal in purity and in truth.
11. Ad they said, Who are thou that seekest to day away with the sacrifices, and despiseth the see of Abraham? From the greeks and the Egyptians hast thou learnt this blasphemy?
12 And Jesus said, Before Abraham was, I Am. And the refused to listen and some said, he is inspired by a demon, and tohers said, he is mad; and they went their way and told these things to the priests and elders. And they were wrath, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy.
another quote:
Again ye have been told, Thou shalt not commit adultery, but I say unto you, if man or woman join toegether in marriage with unhealthy bodies, and beget unhealthy offspring, they are guilty, even though they hve not taken their neighbour's spouce: and if any have not taken a woman who belongeth to another, but desire in their hearth and seek after her, they have committed adultery already in spirit.
animal rights quote:
And some of his disciples came and told him of a certain Egyptian, a son of Belial, who taught that it was lawful to torment animals, if their sufferings brought any profit to men.
2. And jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, they who parake of benefits which are gottn by wronging ofe of God's creatures, canot be righteous; nor can they touch holy things, or teach the mysteries of the kingdom, who hands are stained with Blood, or whose mouths are defiled with flesh.
3 God giveth the grains and the fruits of the earth for food: and for righteous man truly there is no other lawful sustenace for the body.
4. ...Wherefore I say unto al who desire to be my disciples, keep your hand from bloodshed ad let no flesh meat enter your mouths, for God is just and bountiful, who ordaineth that man shall live by the fruits and seeds of the earth alone
5.But if any animal suffer greatly, and if it ..
6. and whatsoever y do unto the Cast of these my chilren ye do it unto me. For I am in them and they are in me, Yea, I am in all creatures and all creatures are in m e. In all their joys I rejoice, in all their afflictions i am afflicted. Wherefore I say unto you: Be ye kind one to another, and to all the creatures of God.
reincarnation
Jesus sat in the porch of the Temple, and some came to learn his doctrine, and one said unto him, Master, what teaches thou concerning life?
2 and he said unto them, Blessed are they who suffer many experiences, for they shall be made perfect through suffering; they shall be as the agels of God in Heaven and shall die no more, neither shall they be born any more, for death and birth have no more dominion over them.
3 they who suffered and overcome shall be made IPillars in the Temple of my God, and they shall go out no more. Verily I say unto you, except ye be born again of water and of fire, ye canot see the kingdom of God.
When jesus knew how the pharisees had murmured and complained because he made and baptized more disciple than John, he left Judea, and departed unto Galilee
2 And jesus came to a certain Tree and abode beneath it many days. And there came Mary Magdalene and other women and ministered unto thim of their substance, and he taught daily all that came unto him
3 And the birds gathered around him, and welcomed him with their song, and other living creatures came unto his feet, and he fed them, and they ate out of his hands
4 and when he departed he blessed the women who shewed love unto him, and turing to the fig tree, he blessed it also, saying: Thou hast given me shelter and shade from the burning heat, and withal thou has given me food also.
5 Blessed be thou, increase and be frutful, and let all who come to thee, find rest and shade and food, and let the birds of the air rejoice in thy branches
6 And behold the tree grew and flourished exceedinlgy, and its braches took root downward, and sent shoots upwad, and it spread mightily, so that no tree was like unto it for its size and beauty, and the abundance and goodness of its fruit.
7 And as Jesus entered into a certain village he saw a young cat which had none to care for her, and she was hungry and cried unto him, and he took her up, and put her inside his garment, and she lay in his bosom.
8 And whe he came into the village he set food and drink befor ethe cat, and she ate and drank, and shewed thanks unto him. And he gave her unto one of his disciples, who was a widow, whose name was Lorenza, ad she took care of her.
9 And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his borthers and siters that he should love them? And he said unto them Verily these are your fell creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal
10 And whosoever careth for one of the least of thse, and giveth it to eat and drink in its need, the same doeth it uto me, and whoso willingly suffereth one of thse to be in want, and defendeth itnot when evilly entreated,s suffereth teh evil as done unto me; for as ye have done in this life, so shall it be done unto you in the life to come.
blood offerings
Jesus was teaching his disciple in the outer court of the Temple and one of them said unto him: Master, it is said by the preiest that without shedding of blood there is no remission. Can thent he blood offering of the law take away sin?
2 and Jesus answered: o blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, fo hwo can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocet blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation.
3. The priests indeed receive such offerings as a reconcilliation of the worshippers for the trespasses against the law of Moses, but for sins against the Law of God there can be no remission, save by repentance and amendment.
4. Is it not written in the prophets, Put your blood sacrifices to your burnt offerings, and away with them, and cease ye from the eating of flesh, for I spake not to your father nor commanded them, when i brought them out of Egypt, concerning these things? But this thin I commanded saying:
5. Obey my voice and walk in the ways that I have commanded you, and ye shall be my people, and it shall be well with you. But they hearkened not. nor inclined their ear.
6. And what doeth the Eternal command you but to do justice, love mercy and walk humbly with your God? Is it not written taht in the beginning God ordained teh fruits of the trees and the seeds and the herbs to be food for all flesh?
7. But they have made the house of prayer a den of thieves, and for the pure oblation with Incense, they have polluted my alters with blood, and eaten of the flesh of the slain.
8. But I say unto you: Shed no innocent blood nor eat ye flesh. Walk uprightly, love mercy, and do justly, and your days shall be long in the land.
9. The corn that growth from the earth with the other grain, is it not transmuted by the Sprit into my flesh? the grapes of the vineyard, with the other fruits are they not transmuted by the Spirit into my blood? Le these with your bodies and souls be your Memorial to the Eternal.
story of the camel
And Jesus was traveliling to jerusalem, and there came a camel heaveny laden with wood. And the camel woulc not drag it up the hill whither he went for the weight thereof, ad the driver beat him and cruelly ill-treated him, but he couldmake him go no further.
13 And Jesus seeing this, said unto him, Wherefore beatest thou thy brother? And the man answered, I wot not that he is my brother, is he not a beast of burden and made to serve me?
14 And Jesus said, Hath not the same God made of the same substance the camel and they children who serve thee, and have ye not one breath of life which ye have both received fro God?
15 And the man marvelled much at this sayig, and he ceased from beating the camel, and took off some of the burden and the camel walked up the hill as Jesus went before him, and stopped no more till he ended his journey
16 And the camel knew Jesus, having felt of the love of God in him. And the man inquired further of the doctrine, and Jesus taught him gladly and he became his disciple.
They who believe in me, out of their hearts shall flow rivers of water, and that which is given unto them shall they speak with power, and their doctrine shall be living water. (this he spake of the spirit, which they that believed o nhim should receive, for the fulness of the Spirit was not yet given becasue tha tjesus was not yet glorified).
And if a desire be unto thee as thy life, and it turn thee from the truth, cast it out from thee, for it is beter to enter life possessing truth, than losing it to be cast into outer darkness.
Better to suffer than to inflict Pain
And if that seem desirable to thee which costs another pain or sorrow, cast it out of thine heart; so shalt thou attain to peace. Better it is to endure sorrow, than to inflict it, on those who are weaker. Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Parent Who is in Heaven is perfect.
And it came to pass that the Lord departed from the City and over the mountains with his disciples. And they came to a mountain whosw ways were steep and there they found a man with a besat of burden.
2 But the horse had falen down, for it was over laden, and he struck it till the blood flowed. And Jesus went to him and said: "Son of cruelty, why srikest thou thy beast? Seest thou not that it is too weak for its burden, and knowedst thou not that it suffereth?"
3 But the man answered and said: "What hast thou to do therewith? I may strike it as much as it pleaseth me, for it is mine own, and I bought it with a goodly sum of money. Ask them who are with thee, fo rthey are of mind acquaintance and know thereof."
4 And some of his disciples answered and said: Yea, Lord, it is as he saith, We have seen when he bought it. And th eLord said again "see ye not then how it bleedeth, and hear ye not also how it waileth and lamenteth?" But they answered ad said: "Nay, Lord, we hear not that it waileth and lamaneteth?"
5 And the Lord was sorrowful, and said: "Woe unto you becasue of the dulness of your hearts, ye hear not how it lamenteth and crieth unto the heavenly Cre3ator for mercy, but thrice woe unto him against whom it crieth and waileth in its pain."
6 And he went forward and touched it, and the horse stood up, and its wournds were healed. But to the an he said: "Go now thy way and strike it henceforth nno more, if thou also desireth to find mercy."
7 and seeing the people come unto himj, Jesus, said unto his disciples Becasue of the sick I am sick; becasue of the hungry I am hungry; becasue of the thristy I am athirst.
8 He also said, I am come to end the sacrifices and feasts of blood, and if ye cease not offering and eating of flesh and blood, the wrath of God shall not cease from you, even as it came to your fathers in teh wilderness, who lusted for flesh and they eat to their content and were filled with rottenness, and th eplague consumed them.
9 and i say unto you, Though ye be gathered together in my bosom , if y keep not my commandments I will cst you forth. For if ye keep not the lesser mysteries, who shall give you the greater
10 He that is faithful in that which is lest is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
11 If therefore ye have not been faithful in the mammon of unrighteousness, who will commit to your trust the true riches? ...
Hunting
And as Jesus was going with some of his disciple he met with a certain man who trained dogs to hunt other creatures. And he said to the man, Why doest thou thus? and the man said, By this I live and what profit is there to any in these creatures? these creatures are weak, but the dogs they are strong. And Jesus said, Thou lackest wisdom and love. Lo, every creature which God hath made hath its end, and purpose, and who can say what good is there in it? or what profit to thyself, or mankind?
and, for thy living, behold the fields yieldig their increase, ad the fruit-bearing trees and the herbs; what needest thou more than these which honest work of thy hands will not give to thee? Woe to the stron gwho misuse their strength, Woe to the hunters for they shall be hunted. And the man marvelled, and left off training the dogs to hunt, and taught them to save life rather than destroy, and he learned of the docties of Jesu and became his disciple.
Lion
and on a certain day as he was passing by a mountain side nigh unto the desert, ther met him a lion and many men were pursuing him with stones and javelins to slay him.
But Jesus rebuked them, saying, Why hunt ye these creatures of God, which are more noble than you? By the cruelties of many generations they were made the enemies of man who shoul dhave been his freinds.
If the power of God is shown in them, so also is shown his long suffering and compassion. Cease ye to be persecute this creature who desireth not to harm you, see y not how he fleeth from you, and is terrifed by your violence?
And the lion came and lay at the feet of jesus, and shewed love to him; and the pople were astonished, and said, Lo, this man loveth all cratures and hath power to command even these besats from the desert, and they obey him.
Nativity of Jesus the christ (Iesus)
Now the birth of Jesu-Maria the christ was on this wise. It came to pass in those days, that there went out a decre from Caesar Augustus, that all th world should be taxed. And all the people of Syyria wen to be taxed, everyo one to his own city, and it was midwinter.
and joseph with mary also went up from Galilee, out of the city of nazareth into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem (becasue they were of the house and lineage of David), to be taxed with mary his espoused wife, who was great with child.
And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. And she brought forth her firstborn child in a Cave, and warped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger, which was in the cave; because there was no room for them in the inn. And behold it was filled with many lights, on either side Twelve, bright as the Sun in his glory.
And there were in the same cave an ox, and a horse, and an ass, and a sheep, and beneath the manger was a cat with her little ones, and there were doves also, overhead, and each had its mate after its kind, th emale with the female.
Thus it came to pass that he was born in the midst of the animals which through the redemption of man from ignorance and selfishness, he came to redeem from their sufferings, by the manifestation or the sons and the daughters of God
And there were in teh same country, shepherds abiding in the feild, keeping wartch over their flock by night. And when they came, lo, the angel of God came upon them, ad the glory of the Highest shoe round about them; and they were sore afraid.
and the angel said unto them, fear not: for, behold, I bring ou good tidings fo great joy, which shall be to all people, for unto you is born this day in the city of David a saviour, which is Christ, the Holy oNe of God. And this shall be a sign uto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes lying in a manger.
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, Glory to God in th ehighest, and on earth peace twoard men of goodwill.
And it came to pas, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which our God hath made known unto us.
And they came with haste, and found Mary and Joseph in the cave, and the Baby lying in a manger. Ad when they had seen these things, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning the child.
Friday, July 3, 2009
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