Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Rev right or wrong! i think he was correct

you are not completely WRONG,
but you cannot hold this criteria to ALL people 100% of the time

people are influenced by their peers, there is no way a person can disagree with this !

OBAMA has been allegedly connected to CRIME, but thats politics. MONEY buys politicians.
Kennedy was assinated because he tried to overcome the criminal Pressures of his family business, oh thats only one scenario.

I defend rev Wright who was Obamas' pastor. until he resigned. (i believe that was the wrong decision) there was a period in my life where i couldnt say in any degree of faith or righteousness that GOD should bless this nation.

this nation is more vile than any Hitler Nazi regime or its 3rd Reich.

this nation is so close to the wrath of God! That maybe God himself would choose muslim terrorists to make them cry Jihad against america and be justified.
remember the revolutionary war was about terrorists fighting against tyranny! ARE they justified?!!! or not?

there are people in america, on the other hand, that are pure in their beliefs, even if they are misguided in their teachers and doctrines. Rev Right, was an example of what many people in america believe! andthere is substantive evidence for everything he said and yet was villified! i wonder why!? most of the media are connected to the conspiracies that combine together to JOin EVIL organizations for profit and greed. not for building the kingdom of God

Sunday, September 14, 2008

proxy human sacrifice

According to alex jones the bohemian grove practice Proxy Human sacrifice! is this not a form of terrorism?

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if this is NOt a form of terrorism
could it be considered Tyranny?
what side do you weigh in ON?
is it tyranny or terrorism or completely unrighteous!

Mum of r4 asked about faith

LDS: Can I please have your thoughts and insights on Ether 12:6?
Ether 12: 6 - http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/12/6#...
6 And now, I, Moroni, would speak somewhat concerning these things; I would show unto the world that faith is things which are hoped for and not seen; wherefore, dispute not because ye see not, for ye receive no witness until after the trial of your faith.

What are your thoughts on the reason why we have to prove our faith before we can receive a deeper knowledge or witness of truth?


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Respectful answers from people of other faiths also welcome. (I directed the question to LDS because the scripture I quoted is from the Book of Mormon)

I reply:
my "witness" of jesus christ the glory of the sun of righteousness came when i was 27 after i was weeping with tears, in the back of my van parked in My fathers' driveway. it came after 6 months of poison and sleep deprivation and the loss of my job working at nintendo. I realize today my witness was not equal to joseph smiths testimony and that there has to be a greater vision/visitation than that! i know i have had paralel experiences.
but i also know faith came to me early on when i was about 15 or 16 when i first began to be "born-again".
God gives greater truth and light, prophecy and revelation, to those that prove their faith. The buffetings of Satan become greater, because the war of good and evil has come to the inhabitants of the earth.

from knowledge and Experience i know you cannot give give a novice the greatest responsibilities of church. i know that if a novice received the greatest revelations He would be required to fulfill the greatest requirements.

to such is given the greatest requirements. a few prophets have buckeled under the weight. and it came to be known that God only gives to people "line upon line precept upon precept" (studying the scriptures). and God does Not require a person to "run faster" than he is able.

and i am pretty sure i have met DEATH face to face on several occasions because of my faith and my testimonies. but i am also pretty sure i have buckeled under the weight thereof too as well.
read some of my other answers and questions you might get more ideas of what i mean.

kit replied:I think its because God won't give a witness to everyone just because. We need to show that we have faith. I think that the "trial of [our] faith" may just be pleading to know, because you have faith that He will answer you. Or a testimony will come through a hard experience.

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Saturday, September 13, 2008

comparing Niv to Kjv rev 3:21

Revelation 3:21-22
New International Version
To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
King James Version
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

at face value this verse looks the same! but is it a "right" to sit on the throne of God, or is it a "grant".
the only way a persons sits on the throne, though, is if they "overcome" all things. for jesus the last enemy to overcome was death.

Tuesday, September 9, 2008

Niv compare Kjv

Isaiah 61:1
New International Version
The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me, because the Lord has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn and provide for those who grieve in Zion--to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of gladness instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead of despair.
King James Version
The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound.

i always liken the debate about bible purity and perfection to what jesus said about psalms 82:6

Monday, September 8, 2008

reincarnation test i dont believe the results

terry asked:
What will you become? ?
Please do this quick fun test to find out what you might become in your next life...
http://www.reincarnationstation.com/

I reply:
32% can get better than i
but i can answer half the questions different ways depending on the mood

according to the bible reincarnation is not given as a promise of the next life
it says we are "appointed" once to die. Yet it says there is a second death.

i personally believe that reincarnation is a possibility for those that are Too good for hell but not good enough for paradise.
the bible also says that the people who were sometimes rebellious in the days of the "flood" remained in spirit prison until the day of the resurrection of jesus.

but listening to So many testimonies on the radio show (coast to coast) of children in america and in india all testifying of things they wouldnt normally know seems to imply the reality of reincarnation.
all i know is i would rather pray for death judgment and resurrection rather than return to mortal life as many times as there are leaves on a tree!
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as for what animal picture was presented, it was a bear.
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if thats what i will be reincarnated as. I know its based on a false belief. but looking at it one way living as a bear, will only last a few years. LOL, i dont believe it.

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Heb. 9: 27
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

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Matt. 24: 38
38 For as in the days that were before the aflood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
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Luke 17: 27
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
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18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God;

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http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/08/04.html
http://www.pastlives.com/

Friday, September 5, 2008

animal or all the host of heaven created first

Kyle asked:

According to the Bible, God created animal or man first?

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i replied:
yes animal

but other commentary teach that ALL the host of heaven Existed before the earth was formed. the sons of God, the lower angels and the Godhead all existed and said let us make man.
God created all things on earth in the spirit world before they were created in the earth. and after all things, except man, were created God said There is no one to till the land So he created Adam. then after Adam worked the land and named all the animals. which implies KNOWLEDGE and growing knowledge! God said it is not good for man to be alone. So EVE was created through a cloning process and was genetically altered and a spirit was joined to eves' body. thus the origins of man and woman have their beginning for ALL mortal men born of woman.

Does satan exist, theories

Somone asked this question:
Christians, some Christians don't believe in Satan, I thought you all did?
Here a Christian guy said that he does not believe in Satan, I tought it was part of your religion?
LOOK AT THE ANSWER provided by micah
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Who tricked Eve to bite the fruit?
WASN' IT SATAN?

SOOOO? I guess you don't even know your own religion!!!!!!!!!!!

I replied:

YEP
its a growing theory!

a movie called Bedazzled exemplifies the current belief from hollywood.
i do believe it has some jewish roots.

but any wicca christian believer will say the same thing. other christians will denounce that wicca can be christian.

I personally believe that fallen angels that existed from the pre-pre-existence are the source of demons and satanic possession(s). however Sorceries and mind control can also make it seem like a person is possessed through post hypnotic suggestions or PURE delusion separation of reality. Something like virtual sleep walking. but if possession is of the former than Satan Does exist.
if possession is of sorceries and mindcontrol, than its possible that satan is a superstition that is based on mind control alone.
i believe life exists on other worlds in the galaxies and i believe part of the war in heaven also includes worlds that rebelled against God being Surpreme ruler. All of these worlds can be the origins of satanic races and devil beings.
but its just a theory based on a few readings of URANTIA.

Tuesday, September 2, 2008

what i see in pharmecuiticals and illegal drug

the church of satan
secret combinations
unrighteous mammon
unrighteous sorceries.

rev 18:23

ok what i see in the world, is people practicing sorceries at the work place. People who dont practice sorcery are poisoned and most people do not know it.
they come home and they cant sleep. why? because they were poisoned at work with stimulants
so they lay in bed all night and when its time to go to work, the drug starts to wear off.
but they go to work anyway and lose another day of sleep
Once in a while someone will give them a sleep potion and they go home and sleep. but having access to their home can and do have people that enter and can poison foods like bread rice and milk or even the bed is poisoned and a person lies down and while they wouldve fallen asleep driving their car home, laying down on the bed they find no sleep because its poisoned.
a person goes to the doctor and gets drugs to help them sleep, and like pain killers they become addicted to sleeping pills.
when they stop working ! a person says to doctor i need something else, referal to a psychatrist is given and a person is automatically claimed to have several types of mental illness.
the drugs are causing Health hazards but are not directly called the source of hte problem. the fact is HIS coworkers are making poisons themselves and causing the illness.
Every stimulant that is poisoned in the air, causes symptoms of withdrawl and deppression. every time a person loses sleep they are often found to dream sleep while they are awake. more symptoms of mental illness. these people are part of a secrect combination which use sorceries and pharmecuticals to control other people
Some people do it for Rape and sodomy others do it for control and power.

some people actually USE the system to obtain the high grade manufactured drugs and use the drugs on other people. they fake their own mental illness to get gain of the drugs which are mass produced.
i have found the meth labs often make their own drugs for poison, not for recreational use. buy illegal drugs for control is always a secret of society and criminal drug rapists. There is no healing in any of htese things just continued addiction and money and power for sleep disorders. which they cause themselves to begin with.

Sunday, August 31, 2008

im not tooting my own horn why does Jesus

first before i do, it seems yahoo wont let me ask question online, can they block users from asking questions?
well? i tried 3 x

this is my situation! i literally am a witness of jesus, some people say this alone is a form of authority and can be justification.
If anyone can achieve this level of justification, doesnt a person have to MORE of the truth than his peers?

or does Jesus Appear in glory to any unbeliever on the day of their conversion to someone that has no experience and no biblical training?

Saturday, August 30, 2008

question lds beliefs of plural marriages

Steven L asked this question:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080830134725AAaYUwL

Do Mormons really believe Jesus had MANY WIVES?
Jedediah M. Grant, Second Counselor to Brigham Young, said: "The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based on POLYGAMY,…A BELIEF IN THE DOCTRINE OF A PLURALITY OF WIVES CAUSED THE PERSECUTION OF JESUS, and his followers. We might almost think they were 'Mormons" (Mormon - Journal Of Discourses, Vol. 1, pg. 345-346)

The Mormon Apostle Orson Hyde made these statements: "It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana at Galilee:...no less a person than JESUS CHRIST WAS MARRIED on that occasion. (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pg. 259-260)

"I will venture to say that if Jesus Christ were now to pass through the most pious countries in Christendom with a TRAIN OF WOMEN, such as used to follow him he would be mobbed, tarred, and feathered, and rode not on an ***, but on a rail. . . (Mormon Apostle Orson Hyde - Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pg. 259-260)

On another occasion Brigham Young (2nd Pres. of the Mormon Church) stated: "The Scripture says that He, the LORD, came walking in the Temple, with HIS TRAIN; I do not know who they were, unless HIS WIVES AND CHILDREN: . . ."(Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, page 309)

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that JESUS CHRIST WAS MARRIED at Cana of Galilee, (Mormon - Journal of Discourses Vol. 2. page 210)


THAT MARY, MARTHA, AND OTHERS WERE HIS [Jesus] WIVES, AND THAT HE BEGAT CHILDREN. (Mormon - Journal of Discourses Vol. 2. page 210)

before mankind learn all the particulars of Christ's incarnation how and by whom he was begotten; the character of the relationships formed by that act; the NUMBER OF WIVES AND CHILDREN HE HAD. . . . " (Mormon - Millennial Star Vol. 15. page 825)

We have also proved that both God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ inherit THEIR Wives IN ETERNITY as well as in time; . . . " (Mormon Apostle Pratt The Seer. page 172)

The Mormon Apostle Orson Pratt stated: ". . .it will be seen that the GREAT MESSIAH who was the founder of the Christian religion, WAS A POLYGAMIST " (The Seer. page 172)

[Jesus] by MARRYING MANY honorable WIVES himself, show to all future generations that HE approbated the PLURALITY OF WIVES under the Christian dispensation, as well as under the dispensation in which His Polygamist ancestors lived. " (Mormon Apostle Pratt The Seer. page 172)

"We have now clearly shown that GOD THE FATHER HAD A PLURALITY OF WIVES, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His first Born, and another being upon the earth by whom He begat the tabernacle of Jesus " (Mormon Apostle Pratt The Seer. page 172)


Your Answer:
i do !
but my bishop does not
i believe study of church history will prove that brigham young and parley p pratt did too!
i think that means joseph smith did too

different forms of jesus

on the one hand the bible says God never changes,
i can accept that that means his appearance never changes and also his works and judgments.
but the bible says that Jesus appeared in a different form to two disciples.
the tv series Joan of arcadia implies that jesus can appear in any bodily form and does, i think because of this same verse.
however Paul also writes that jesus does not appear as a man traveling on the road which contradicts the 2 disciples testimony that it was jesus!

on the other hand there is a demon LORD Similitude in the tv series Buffy the vampire slayer which does change appearance and form to confuse and deceive all people.
Ed Dames as a remote veiwer says that holographic imagery can produce similitudes that have mass and visual experiences! he spoke of bigfoot in this example.
if jesus appeared in his resurrected body, I would Tell the world that his body does not change, that it would be the same body he was resurrected with.
that being said, however, i recall that there is a doctrine of teaching which says jesus is lord over at least 12 other planets! if this is true! Jesus might have access to 12 other resurrected bodies. which means at the same time Jesus can appear in 12 or 13 forms of body which are different frome each other.
the complexities of what happens in the eteral galaxies and the plans of salvation can be very confusing. Unless direct revelation and answers are given specifically from the presense and mouth (lips) of jesus himself.

Thursday, August 28, 2008

false prophets anti christ chips

chris f asked this:
if the bible is a fake, why is stuff prophesied thousands of years ago is coming in place?

false prophets?
anti christ is coming?
they even have chips* mark of the beast* out already
use your scientific to explain this 1

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it is my friend your being too blinded to see it. i dont blame you its just ignorant

first i am a believer, then i seen an angel and i become a witness, then i see jesus and really become a witness.

ok that said false prophets are not limited to people who are called prophets but it applies to teachers as well.
the bible Is not a fake, i believe it and everything in it, until someone proves that something went wrong. ive asked a few quesitons myself on the PERFECTION of what is in it. I came to the conclusion that not ever word is "god-breathed" as some christian churches have changed the word inspiration to.
anti christs existed in the days of Paul, in fact there were OTHER Messiahs, one of which is recorded in the book of acts ch11. i think he was one of htem.
There are even a couple false Jewish messsiah living today.! so antichrists that call themselves christ exist today. but they at least believe they are followers of righteousness.
there are many others that exist that are NOT righteous. the aluminadi is supposed to be this one world oligarchy, but ive been told they are as much antichrist (evil) as any son of perdition.

as for chips. Yes Katherine Albright is a major source of all the evil plots and conspiring done to undermine everything for the sake of a chip. but there are only a known 300 people that have ever been chipped, the last i heard, and many of these are getting the chip removed.
however, that said, the mark of the beast is not just a chip! the mark of the beast is a fraternity of historical allegence the mark of the beast dates back to Cain who was given a mark in the forehead. after Cain received it there began an entire culture of people who copied the mark in covenants to satan. this mark has never been destroyed from the earth since the days after the flood.
this is Gods' world, the title has been given to jesus,

i hope i answered the topics in question, i have said more on these topics in other details. in other questions and answers.
but always remember the world rejects the servants of God and in todays world of mass media, that doesnt say much for the truth, if a thousand people can stand up and Mock or deny the servants of God, because of politicall correctness. and truth suppression or either by economic manipulation.

exaltation marriage and partnership

before america passed equal rights constitutional ammendments women were 2nd class citizens.
in the times of the old testament it was no different.

Eve was the cause of disobedience to Gods' commandment, therefore it was the designation of women to be a little less authoritative in the world.

2tim Adam was not deceived. but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
it is a custom of the old world that continues to this day. I wouldnt say that saul hated women, i would say He was subject to Traditional Interpretations of current beliefs.

Even Jesus showed a change in this erroneous belief system. therefore his disciples said husbands love your wives, Wives do not usurp yourhusbands, Jesus clearly said a man and a woman will leave homes and become ONE.
therefore it is a marriage covenant that man and wife are Partners unto exaltation, without the husband a wife cannot bear children in righteousness and receive forgiveness, without the wife, the husband cannot receive a fulness of exaltation.

Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

citizenLup asked this question:
Why do Christians believe the Bible to be true and claim they are good people?
When it says things like this

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. they shall say to the elders of his town ,"This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard." then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. So you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all the Israel will hear, and be afraid.

Exodus 35:2
Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy sabbath of solemn rest to the Lord; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; there blood is upon them.

Seems to me if they believe that they are just as wicked and sick as most inmates in the correctional systems.

i answer:
one of the many things ive learned on this section of QA is that sometimes Atheists get it! and they get some things correct. putting evolution aside.

the bible is called the perfect word of God. Every JOT and Tittle will not pass away. Yet the bible code is corrupted. so the code can be changed if someone understands its secret.
the new testament is riddled with minor personal commentary which are called absolutely true today! some even go as far as saying every word is God breathed which is changed from "inspired by God".

as a born again protestant christian i believed everything i was taught because MY LEADERS couldnt be deceived! right?
as an lds witness of jesus, i saw Jesus! so I KNOW like the prophets and greater teachers of christianity that Atheists are completely wrong but justifiably misguided.
the bible NEVER was intended to be the absolute truth, it was meant to be a small library of canon that everyone can hold in their hands if one could afford it. but in our day everyone can afford it. its something that allows believers to ponder on the mysteries of God. and keep their minds excercised on the things of faith.
that be said in answer to your question, in deuteronomy, Jesus said forgiveness is greater than punishment He also called people who believe in such things should turn the other cheek. NOT to hate enemies but to love them. after all most hatred is percieved NOT real.
there are a few things that christianity changes from the OLD testament. eating food and mikvahs are one practice.
another way of looking at this verse is that it was NOT God who spoke but it was inpiration of the time. so it is again NOT all the God breathed words of God .

antimormon allegations history of the lds church

Are there any ! lds! mormons, who know why anti-mormons condemn joseph smiths testimony?
are there any lds that have studied the history of the lds church and also the history of anti mormon allegations. ? can we know the answer to the discrepency of the joseph smith varied versions?
stupid typos

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ok! i dont see anyone answering the question, and it is sure peculiar that i dont know any of these "mormons" lds who are answering!

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Well,? !! one thing is Sure! i got better answers to OTHER questions that i didnt even need to ask.
for example: can it be proven that false witnesses beleive what they teach? and always teach the: "what is called the truth"!

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s that there were any more prophets after the crucifiction of Jesus, and it seems odd that someone would find "plates" in the middle of nowhere in the Northeast of the US. Stretches the imagination is all.

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Yes, there are 3 different accounts of the first vision that Joseph Smith wrote. Some Anti Mormon Site has it somewhere, i'll try to look it up.

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BECAUSE JOE SMITH WAS A LIAR AND A PSYCHOTIC NUTJOB.

THERE ARE 3 OR MORE VERSIONS OF THE "FIRST VISION"

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My boyfriend was an Elder in the LDS religion. He went on his mission and didn't leave the church until he was 22. Joseph Smith read "golden plates" out of a HAT. The people are FAKE and so is everything Joseph Smith said. Not to mention all the other garbage they fed him.

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I'm a former member of the church if that helps you at all, not quite what your looking for I know.

For one thing, look into the papyrus J Smith claimed to translate. They rediscovered it in the 60's, finished translating it in the 80's. It was just an Egyptian book of the dead, very common to be buried in egypt where the scrolls came from. Sort of proves Smith wasn't right.

Also the testimony of the man who found the plates. Smith claimed he got a certificate of authenticity but the man wrote on it later saying he gave no such thing to Smith, who's plates looked like nonsense from what you could tell.

The book of mormon includes a huge copy from revelations. But there's a mistranslation in the book of mormon version that exactly the same as one found in the King james version avaible at the time Smith existed. If the book of mormon was protected from the apacrasy it would not have had the same mistranslation as one specific version of the bible, the one the mormons/protestants use.

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because they want to. you look hard enough you can make anything have the end result you want. my mother is a perfect example of this! no matter what is done or said somehow she finds a way to make someone elses fault. you can do that with any religion. you want to disprove something- there is always something out there that you can try and use to your advantage. lawyers do it all the time- they make something out of nothing to help their client regardless if it's the full truth or not!

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1. There isn't one bona fide witness who saw the golden plates.

2. He claims on occasion to have had to run carrying the plates, which from his description, had to have weighed well over 200 if not 300 pounds, gold is really heavy.

3. The resulting Book of Mormon sounds like it King James English. People in up state New York did not talk that way in the 1820s.

4. There are some chapters in the Book of Mormon which are word for word identical with some chapters in the King James Bible.

5. No language expert has ever heard of "reformed Egyptian".

6. No city, no feature of the land, has ever been found to verify what's written in the Book of Mormon.

His whole story just does not hold water.

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Mormonism says it is a reinstatement of the original church from the time of the apostles. Funny how can be as the original church never died out.

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There is no answers to the claims Smith made. Try as you may you cannot make a lie into truth.

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Actually there were 9 early accounts of the First vision. Are they contradictory? No. This is an excellent article that explains it all.


http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vg...


And "Pastor"...all 6 of your claims are false. I'm sure you believe them but if the accusations fit your prejudices, truth is easliy pushed aside.

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The whole concept of being okay with Polygamy and then not being okay with it totally contradicts the validity of Joseph smith's testimony.

They also said that black people were "cursed" hence why you'll never find a black Mormon.

They also force you to tithe and last time I checked, giving was something that you do voluntarily.

Read "Mormonism 101"

It will blow your mind when you consider how anyone could possibly stay Mormon and not bother to read up on what they are actually supposed to be believing. I think people are just drawn to the warm family centered atmosphere but then don't ask the important questions like:

Who am I? (A child of God)
Where am I headed? (To hell)
Why am I headed there? (because man sinned)
How do I stop it? (Jesus already stopped it, you just need repent which means to say your sorry and mean it and try to stop sinning.)

You might say: "But Mormons believe in Jesus don't they?" And the Answer is "no." They believe in a different Jesus. The Mormons say Jesus was "just a prophet" and "a" son of God and we are all sons of God but that's just not true. God created us and he has a "one and only son".

Many parts of the bible verify that Jesus was the son of God and not "just a prophet"
John 3:16 says "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life"

And that's plain as day. It can't be misinterpreted.

If you're reading this, You need to know God loves you and has a plan for your life. You just need to let him show you by asking for forgiveness. Have you lied? Stolen? maybe even murdered?
It doesn't matter how many times, God is a holy God and sin cannot be in his presence. That is why God sent his son, to pay for your sin so that he could have a relationship with you once again.

May God bless you!
Source(s):
The Bible, "Mormonism 101" and personal experience.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080827164501AAiM62v&r=w
LDS are like JWs. If you catch them in a lie, they swear, "I never said that."

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Ha! A Mormon 'studying' is like a judge reading witness testimony after he's already given his verdict.

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Joseph Smith has some real problems with credibility. LDS folks must follow him loosely to some degree because of some of his behaviors. The fact that he sent off young married men to New York as missionaries and then apparently committed fornication with their wives is one example.
Joseph Smith was a lover and a fighter, and not the best example of a godly man.

His use of seer stones and his involvement with the Masons and their rituals does not help his reputation.

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tv guide customerservice

kennewick charter communication 99301

Ok, very quite often i realize tvguide online does upgrades, but everynow and the ch. 17 and 63 and maybe one other channel are offset by timezone. thats ion and disney cartnoon channel
another thing ! i have 2 computers and on one computer i never get my zip code even though im logged in and registered. it always starts off with eastern zipcodes, so on one ocmputer i have to change my settings every single time. and on the other every nown and then, i thought it was my personal setting on the computer, but i cant figure it out.
http://www.tvguide.com/CustomerService/default.aspx
http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx

Does anyone use TV guide online to get their favorite tv show times?
http://www.tvguide.com
with this said! how long before the free registration become a full fledged subscription service?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20080826194551AA0QO20

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

simon peter was he a messiah in historic Judaism

Is NOT Simon Peter One of these alleged Historical "anti christs"? in the book of acts ch 8?

Acts 8: 9, 11
9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.

4 minutes ago
this man is villified as a sorcerer. according to these words I think history says he also boasted of raising someone from the dead.
but this sorcery, is the same thing I have been answering people for many years. it is used to Fake church and heavenly authority it is used as a weapon of warfare for our minds and is used to control religion.
rev 18:23
for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

1 second ago
i think these two verses answer the question! however if a man practices great and powerful sorcery, first he is a fraud if he practices these things but secondly do people do err when they follow these kinds of men. and third i do think it is true that he was one of the antichrists, which they called a Messiah.
so i ask for some credible answer on the knowledge of history. can being a sorcerer qualify a man to be called a messiah?
this question is a follow up on a previous question about many contenders who were called messiah in Jesus' generation

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i was corrected so much on the form of the question i deleted it and rewrote the question as follows:
Is NOT Simon the sorcerer One of these alleged Historical messiahs? in the book of acts ch 8?
Is NOT Simon One of these alleged Historical "anti christs"? in the book of acts ch 8?

Acts 8: 9, 11
9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.

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rather than let the typo and error remain i decided it would be better to delete it
angel asked:These men were exacty the same as the mythological Jesus?
He healed the sick, fed the hungry, and raised the dead. He performed miracles and his followers said he was the Son of God. Three days after his death, he rose again to proclaim salvation to the world. His name… Apollonius of Tyana. And he was just one of several preachers and miracle-workers of the First Century who rivaled the fame and following of Jesus. Who were these “Rivals of Christ?” Why did the Mediterranean world of AD 1 seem to create so many Messiahs? And why did the faith of Jesus win out over the similar sects of the day? In this documentary, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL examine the New Testament and the historic rivals of Jesus to learn what makes a Messiah, and how a religion is born.

There was more than one Messiah and, just like Jesus, the other messiahs were said to heal the sick, raise the dead and were even called the 'sons of God'. So why are they forgotten?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3126202689810625112&ei=1L6zSNKWD6eQqwO188DHDA&q=the+rivals+of+jesus

i answer
so many statements and questions about false christs. the term antichrist is not without use in the letters of the bible.
i have looked into this in some detail. the only messiah that was resurrected was jesus.
and there were contenders ! there is no denying it.

there are two points to consider: first the disciples of jesus were about to go and rebuke a few people and jesus denied them from doing it.
second. one must also look into the "ends" of the lives of the "other" christs and OTHER historical virgins bearing children as well.
the one thing you cant say about satan, is HE does not lack for imagination and in creating false beliefs and false religions instead of the true authority of priesthood in the earth, and there is lack of followers for these same things.

the book of revelation describes the church of satan as the opposite of a bride and ONE of the major weapons of deceit is the use of Sorcery to deceive the world, that "THEY" have the power of God.
be not negligent in this OTHER FACT of history.

but in my case the FACT is absolutely true. Jesus still lives.
and no matter what era of religious history you look into there is always false prophets and when these have gained power they always seem to kill and destroy the true prophets.
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11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.
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Rev. 9: 21
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
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Rev. 18: 23
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

craft of healing or witchcraft plain and simple

to be honest im not active in any church.
i came to the point that it was more evil to go to church than NOT to.
i was sleep deprived for almost 15 years and complaining of being poisoned on a daily basis where i was not allowed to sleep for 2 or 3 days at a time and then it came to a point where i would only sleep ten minutes a day or one day a month.
but i believe in christ
and i try to believe everything that seems true
in the tradition of the protestant churches i alligned myself but found that the LDS church theology has a lot more available.
but its hard to believe what is true when even the lds online HERE disagree with each other, which shows me that geographically there are areas of false teachers and leaders already leading into "error". i know ive been reproved on a couple of occasions by posting questions on QA

as for your statement about wicca. i am almost pretty sure that All religious groups have some wicca in them. and LDS membership is included.
I think its wrong to practice magic in secret, but Parley P Pratt said he would learn the craft of healing. so im pretty sure he was talking about some form of antiwitchcraft. but at the same time having lived with the inability for the craft of healing to ever bless me continually, I realized that I was never healed.

a dream of hell

MsC asked this:

I Had A Dream That I Was In Hell?
I had a dream that I was in hell. My mom said it was a vision from God. It was so real. The devil was talking to me and I saw people burning. I was the only one who wasn't getting put into the flames. I woke up, but I was dreaming from another dream and then I woke up.
There is more to it..but I don't think I should tell all. But I don't know why I was there. But I was safe but scared and the devil was warning me not to jump or I'll join them.

i answered:

there are several possiblities here!

first ive been there many times!
ive seen different things and experienced other things of of purgatory and paradise as well.

some things can be hypnotic mind control, with suggestive illusion through the use of hypnoNarcotic drugs.(according to carla emery) in the old english and biblical equals this is often refered to as witchcrafts and sorceries.

so be careful what dreams are of the Holy Ghost and what dreams of mans secret combinations.

there are 5 or 6 different sources of dreams, the rarest of all source if from God, in person.
Jesus follows in rarity and then the holy ghost and angels.

if angels can give dreams, they can fall like "rain" if it be the will of Godhead. or at the same time be completely silent.

if angels can dream so can fallen angels! and with my experience so can Satan! these kinds of dreams can be false.
all dreams can be Imagination.
Most people are hard wired to dream. this hard wire is the ability of creation for God to communicate with us, and for angels too. satan and his angels abuse this gift of the mind and torture some people. these same being have taught these practices to men who worship them and have made allegeince and covenants with satan. again, the practice comes to calling it witchcraft and sorceries.
as for the the other questions in you additional details!
if it was the devil that said not to jump i would think it was not the devil.
and i dont recall where the devil actively shows people HELL when at the same time he tries to deceive the world he doesnt exist at all?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080826173009AAxAZ4P

yahoo QA customer abuse ToS

there is alot of abuse in yahooQA, there are those that actually make a game out of getting the most violations and insulting others, from perspective it is mostly mockers of religion and atheist that do this.
most christians get fed up with slanderous answers from atheists and satanists. so they just excercise their right to have a little peace of mind while asking and answering truly religion questions.
i personally have gone round and round with Yahoo ToS and customer service for getting proper religious questions deleted.
I asked a purely correct question and got a violation. it was removed to this day. i appealed, and it was still rejected. while at the same time i see literally tens and hundreds of question that are exactly the same type and manner and they dont get violated.
it pisses me off (excuse my slang)
when i first started Yahoo actually deleted my entire account, i had 7 years worth of files on other accounts and in yahoo groups and archived in email. i lost them all!
i asked one particualar question and it was violated because it used the word harlot in the biblical verse . they never did reinstate it. i asked another question it was violated, it was called a rant. so edited the question and published a watered down version, it was also violated even though it was only 3 or 4 lines long. Yes abuse exists even at yahoo customer support. !

Monday, August 25, 2008

lion of judah asks atheist religious question

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080825115802AAIjQRZ
Atheists, what made the people want a murder released and Jesus killed?
If Jesus did no harm, why would the people yell that they want a murder released to them and the Man Jesus killed instead?? What possibly could have been His crime?

Does atheism have to do with anything about religion and spirituality, no. But nevertheless, I ask you anyway. :)

lion of judah asked atheists this question

i think its rude to ask atheists a religious question in a religious section so i replied:
im not an atheist, can i give my 2 bits worth of educated opinion?

first His Apostles proclaimed his blamelessness and that he did not sin.
second, those that were offended were not the true servants of God, they bribed Judas with 70 pieces of silvers, that is not an act of righteousness, nor something that is expected of those teach the teach commandments.
third there was a secret combination (conspiracy) alleged in the bible that people vowed not to eat until Jesus was dead.
fourth political manipulation to KEEP power, the term wickedness in high places was also mentioned.

jesus himself said a parable about a LORD who send his servants to check on the managagers of his properties. the managers killed the servants so the LORD finally sent his son, when they killed him too, the LORD himself came and took away his own property.
i think jesus was being knowledgly prophetic

Friday, August 22, 2008

why does God not answer some prayers

this dilemma is not unknown

as for my own prayers since the day i became born again believer i have had prayers to almost all of my prayers.
the best answer was seeing an angel appear in my room at the beginning the greatest answer to prayer was seeing the glory of the lord Jesus.

but the most instantaneous example was asking how to pray, then standing up and hearing the "still small voice" say: turn on the tv, (or something like that) i walked across the room, turned on the tv and the minister on tv was talking about the lords prayer in LUKE ch. 11 in answering the same question of the disciples of christ.

there might not be any need for you to be given ANY answers
you might have to show daily diligence in prayiing, knocking, seeking, and asking.

you might be trying to lie the Holy Ghost but that is usually reserved for those that call themselves atheists.

prayer can be a soul searching experience, and is always not lip service.

# there might also be something that happened in the pre existence of your life. i am not sure of this answer, but lets suppose you made an agreement not to get your prayers answered as a type of a challenge to your faith which is already good enough. or the same thing can be said that you chose not to have prayers answered so you can have a normal life!
believe me having prayers answered is not easy, thousands of atheist will put you in a straightjacket seeing that i am experienced with the ridicule of mass mockery from unbelievers. So not getting a prayer answered miraculously can save you from persecution as well as having some peace of mind.
there is another possible reason too.
some people are given gifts, and some people are born that have to rely on the gifts of others in order to have their own gifts mean something. spiritual gifts are given for the edification of the members of the church. maybe you dont need to have a gift for the church, maybe your personal gift is only for a few and thats all you have to worry about ?

God bless, i hope one of these answers fits your particular life experience.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080822180254AApwPkl

how is a cult created

brainwashing is a misplaced descriptive word which means mind "control" technically brain washing is a term which "erases" memory.

i would not want to start a cult

but i know how it is done in all churches!
the bible says that pharmekia is the sin of sorcery and is often called witchcraft too.
psychadelic drugs and mind altering poisons are created. the poison is administered into a congregation to simulate the PRESENCE of the SPIRIT.
and when it is called the spirit of God people follow without too much rejection. afterall its a drug that makes one feel good like alchohol makes people say they have "the spirits" with them
now when a peson is poisoned and the euphoria declines a person is left with a symptom of mental illness, so people make pills and potions to SELL so that the mental illness goes away. its like smoking pot too. good highs and crashing.

however a person doesnt get rich selling snake oils so, a group of people combine together to call their potions medicines and force people through medical ascoaciation to prescribe the original poison, and then they invent a term called psychology which is supposed to cure mental illness but it really never cures anything, different medicines cause different altered states, symptoms of these altered states cause withdrawls and more mental illness, which sells HUGH profits in the billions. until finally the whole nation learns to make their own potions and poisons and pretends to fight the good fight and has the spirit of a god to heal. thus religion requires secret combinations to gain power.
thats what the world DOES, its not a fairy tale.

yellowstone or grand canyon Paranoia

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D&C 42: 68
68 Therefore, he that lacketh wisdom, let him ask of me, and I will give him liberally and upbraid him not.
drove through it yes, or some part of it. to escape my predators who threatened to kill me in an extreme case of Total paranoia.
but i dont think i really escaped their stalking presence.
would i go back YES this time to enjoy the scenery.

oh wait! it wasnt yellowstone per se, i think it was more parts of the grand canyon. it was only one day, sigh, and im sure i was in the area.

i bottomed my car on a sand-bump in the road, i was frantic and thought for sure the death threats were real that i might die any minute from the hands of my pursuers. lol, i prayed, and calmed down and used car-jack to raise the rear of the car and the front wheel drive pulled the car foward enough to get unstuck.
i dont think in my entire life i was ever that paranoid with just cause or without.
i learned to trust in the lord for protection with greater strength because of that day.

some of the scenery was great in the passing canyons

Monday, August 18, 2008

osama bin laden

if i were to tell you that osama ben laden was/is a servant of God would you burn me at the stake? of course!
but if i told you that OUR own U.S. government placed Mr ben laden into power would you reconsider?
our own government follows Satan, therefore it is true that america follows satan, not God.
if osama is truly fighting a losing battle, despite political origin, or religous beliefs his actions prove ONE thing, there is a greater EVIL in the world that are greater Terrorists than just al queada.

comparing D&C and Timothy 2 eating the forbidden fruit

D&C 29: 34, 36, 40, 42
40 Wherefore, it came to pass that the devil tempted Adam, and he partook of the forbidden fruit and transgressed the commandment, wherein he became subject to the will of the devil, because he yielded unto temptation.

compare this verse to the one timothy ch.2
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Gen. 3: 6.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

ok, ive always believed that Adam resisted temptation. and it was eve alone that went to adam and he partook because he didnt want to lose his wife. but genesis clearly says adam was present with eve at the tree. but it says adam was not deceived. clearly the D&C verse declares adama a transgressor, but the bible says only eve was in the transgression. at least thats whats implied. was adam at the tree when eve ate the first bite, was he away at the time and eve called adam to her side to take of the forbidden fruit.


2 Ne. 10: 24.
24 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, reconcile yourselves to the will of God, and not to the will of the devil and the flesh; and remember, after ye are reconciled unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved.

the book of mormon states that adam and eve wouldve remained in a state of innocence.
however it is my opinion that because Adam is called a son of God the knowledge of righteousness wouldve (possibly) increased. Adam was created to live for eternity, i cant see Adam being in a state of innocence forever, even learning to become a God.
however, because of the fall, and His redemption of christ, he has become a god in his own kingdom, at least according to the LDS church.
let me see if i can find thescriptures.

delieriums child asked:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080818072045AAJUoVF&r=w#A4FOPkDFKHXU1Io2BSaP

If eve hadn't eaten the apple, what would've happened?
would we all be in the garden of eden? because then that would probably mean there'd be no england, europe or america because we would'nt have explored outside the boundaries of the garden, right?

i answered:
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2 Ne. 2: 23
23 And they would have had no children; wherefore they would have remained in a state of innocence, having no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin.

Saturday, August 16, 2008

nothing is pure and undefiled, churches religion

this religious section should be devoted to religion, no matter what type of religion is it.

violations should be considered as to who is giving the violation as well as to whom the reputation is of those that answers question and ask questions.

your question is obviously bringin up a serious point of contention between terms of service and the actions of unbelievers who are not even religious nor do they add to the religion section except to annoy and to flag violations of conduct.
There is a God, and this section should be regulated for those that believe in God and to those that ask honest question and give honest answers. it should not be dominionized by unbelievers whether they are guests or whehter they are employees of yahoo. the terms of service is so ambiguous that any employee that is an antichrist can dish out violations whether the answer is true or the question is just. despiste what unbeliever say when they flag a question or an answer
i am tired of guests and people who are not religious in teh beginning, having a controlling factor in this section.
ive seen too many people complain about violations that were true or believed to be true and yet get deleted because of trolls who practice unwanted actions in this section.
a good christian also! should not flag a question because it disagrees with their beliefs, if a true follower of jesus or mohammend flags a question or an answer because it disagrees with their paradeigm(?) i dont know how to spell it, then they shouldnt be online to ask question.

alternatively an answer that is true should not be flagged or violation given because it disagrees with a persons belief system, because no one knows the truth of all things and can be following lies and believe in false doctrine no matter what religion they belong to. NOTHING is pure and undefiled in the generation! NOTHING.

peer reveiw corruption and science of evolution rbuked

is not the science of evolution only a theory? than it is only an obvious mythology?
of course it is.!
science has been getting everything wrong for over a thousand years. there are groups of scientist that say one thing and another group that says they are wrong.
if there is a proof that there is a God , than that proof is found in the testimony of prophets, but despite what the prophets say, THEY get it wrong too.
evolution science has much fraud in it. those that would reprove science are subject to peer reveiw without identification. this is a corruption in itself. any peer can reject ALL proof of science fraud just by saying its wrong without proof of their own, only their disbelief.
the proof o God exists, therefore evolution must wrong because the science of evolution does not allow a God to exist in the equation despite the claims of testimony.

the yahoo religious section Is
this is a religion section after all. NOT a Frag the believers forum or shoot the messenger of religious truth forum.

Friday, August 15, 2008

testimony and antitestimony how to reconcile ?

From: oceanwoman78

Subject: Re: i never knew

Message: This info was big on my exit from the mormon church. Levels of heaven, spirit world,

celestial marriage...all from Swedenbourge.
Smith had a TON of borrowed information.

you said: Subject: Re: i never knew

Message: This info was big on my exit from the mormon church. Levels of heaven, spirit world,

celestial marriage...all from Swedenbourge.
Smith had a TON of borrowed information.

I reply. it just gets more exciting everytime i listen to ex mormons. but despite what i am taught

among men, i still have my own witness of jesus and personal revelations which is a stronghold of

testimony. So, how do you think i should reconcile your testimony with my own?

12:11 AM 8/15/2008
i must also add that noone taught me my testimony.
is it possible that revelations are given despite not having a church.
i still cant get past the official joseph smith testimony Seeing Jesus and God the Father then getting

ordained by peter james and john and john the baptist.
I dont know any church that can claim such a testimony.
even an angel fulfills the verses in the book of revelation where an angel gives the everlasting

gospel to the inhabitants of the earth.
I myself had an appearance of an angel in my bedroom before i ever knew about the church, or any

church.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080815000125AALplf7&r=w

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

wicca, pennies from heaven, sorcery book burning poster

pennies and dimes from heaven
i dreamed a dream when i was a child, it was the LORD or the spirit of
God, in my understanding, a promise was given to me that if i preached
the gospel I would always be provided for.
I would dig in the earth and find coins that i could use to feed me.

at the same time i have not as yet had to rely on that promise because
I have always had enough work to provide for myself, until now.
because of illnesses and torture, i find myself being unable to get
employment and now i cant even get temp jobs for labor. Something EVIL
always happens and circumstance dictate alternative paths.

however,! thats not the reason of this post.
tonight on c2c Jeani called in at the last half hour and she gave a
refreshing testimony of pennies from heaven. about her dead dad
deliver pennies and dimes.

On the one hand this a great spiritual story and testimony about dead
relatives making contact with with living mortals. Mortals cant always
know what is truth and what is fabrication. it sure is a feel good
testimony and i want to believe it. But as quickly as i edited this
statement out, i realized that children can be mislead so easily. its
like a tooth fairy leaving money at night and taking a tooth. i
dont want to think about fraud and forgery, but i have been subject to
the possibilities my entire life.
there were also added into jeanies testimony glimpses of false
doctrines and traditions that seem to be contrary to the gospel as well.
practicing witchcraft and majicks is forbidden in the bible, even the
very word homeoapathy is in the english version but that could a Kings
influence or a scribes transliteration as weLL. 2x anyway there are many people that practice wicca world wide and they
claim it is all for good, and that magic is nuetral. i have rarely
found through suffering experience that this is true.
there are a few wicca who testify that it is still witchcraft and can
lead a person into greater darkness, they too testify that it is not
All as good as can be said.

i will say this much, if i can be a worthy priest and much greater
witness for jesus christ and the gospel, i would ask Jesus to his face
, did he allow the practice of similar things like wicca? Did he teach
his apostles how to make poisons and antedotes in the form of the
craft of healing? is this very literal definition found in one of
jesus' parables about fasting and much prayer to get this kind of
knowledge, or does healing come from above? there are 2 forms of Peace
one which is elemental and one which comes from above.
Then i would not stop preaching and teaching the correct appraoch to
poisoners and wiccans alike.

however i think i am correct when i conclude that wicca is also just
as bad as black sorcery.
the example of burning books, (not for cencsorship), for repentance.
which was a public demonstration of what the apostles believed in. The
practicioners of various sorceries public announced their knowledge
andthen public denounced it by burning their Very expensive books.

it not only proves that sorceries and secret arts were practiced by
Jews, it proves that the same sins and traps and snares exist today,
because not all people repent, nor do they believe they should repent.

anyway i am rather long winded on this topic, this is what Jeanies
testimony led me to believe in. America is fully 1/3 evil in my
opinion and these secret combinations must either END or the people
must be destroyed by the Warning of God.

which ones will be destroyed ?
which ones will be spared?

audio clip of satan worship, art bell bishop manchester i think
http://cid-fff19b48ee821aa4.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/0ArtBellClipSatan\
worship2.wma

book of mormon dramatized witchcraft sorcery likened unto wolves
http://cid-fff19b48ee821aa4.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/00BomSorcerersfol\
lowpeoplelikewolveslookingforfood.WMA

bom dramatized clip cast out your sorcerers
http://cid-fff19b48ee821aa4.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/0castoutyourScorc\
erersSaysMoroni.wma

drugrape caught on tape, wolves practicing criminal acts
http://cid-fff19b48ee821aa4.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/0DrugRapeCaughton\
Tape2.wma
http://cid-fff19b48ee821aa4.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/0policewatchaTape\
ofRape2melissawasdrugged.wma

robert testifies of rape drug public radio
http://cid-fff19b48ee821aa4.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/01DrMikeRobertTes\
tifiesofRapeDrugs.wma

8 years ago i realized that drug rape is just another way of saying
witchcraft and sorcery. the church of satan, or the harlot of babylon
is described as a beast who uses sorceries to deceive the nations, men
believe this ability is from God. but i think they are deceived.


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the

above link is a photo of a poster i made that connects several
verses together hinging on the topic of burning books in the 19
chapter of Acts verse 18-19.
the other verses are:
ch. 15:24
D&C 60:2,3,4 ( i think ) there might also be reference in D&C 63:7
john 5:27,29 (or is it ch.8)
3 nephi 9
Rev 18:4, 18, (23)
matthew 7:6
Luke ch12 and 23

incorrectwisdom and judgmental

first of all, if this message was directed at ME, i have no clue that it is!
second of all such a statement recorded below, means you are not my freind, so that makes you a liar, calling it a polite apology does not escape you from such a judgement.
third, Jesus was THE WORD of GOD, and learned men rejected HIM as a blasphemer, a son of fornication, a prince of devils, and HE taught at least one doctrine that made most of his disciples LEAVE him and they never returned.

Fourth the testimony of joseph smith declares that the spirit can come and go as he wills. but not all spirits are of God and not all inspiration ends in correct doctrine or true judgment.

There is a God in heaven, I have seen Jesus the Christ therefore i am a witness, of his Glory and his visitation like a thief in the night. IF anyone denies the existence of God that testimony Alone disproves it

--- On Wed 08/13, Bryce Norton <> wrote:
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To: davids_outcasts@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:17:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [888] Re: Testimonies and Prophets
keep holding onto your grudges and negativity my friend, im sure its served you well so far. The spirit is not in you at these moments, and you know it with the attitude you portray, in this i am confident and have no need to debate such a thing with you. Good luck and god bless.
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Tuesday, August 12, 2008

i expect yahoo to violate this answer

Did you ever have this happen?

Did you ever spend a lot of time here on Y Answers trying to write a good answer for someone just to find out when you submit it that they are TAKING A BREATHER! It just happened to me.


Your Answer:

i tried to answer the same question 4or5or6times and got the same question that yahoo is taking a breather! i asked the same question and found another person asking the same question also.
in between time, while Yahoo was SUPPOSEDLY taking a breather I answered at least 5 other questions.
and at the same time i received an answer to my question which says Yahoo is subjectively censoring peoples' answers.

i honestly believe yahoo management is mostly antichrist but that is my own opinion from circumstantial evidence oh wait! maybe antichrist people work for yahoo. yeah, thats it.

Sunday, August 10, 2008

Kolob yahoo R&S

tiffany asked this:

Mormons. if N.A.S.A ever launches a mission to KOLOB, will you hitch a ride to go visit God and Joe Smith


hiroshim. note...I said IF...NASA...I would assume they would know where it was before they launched.
note. I hope YOU remember this email. when you find you are WRONG you will be ashamed

i replied:
LOL

NOooooooooo
this is like the immortal and live forever question.

if i could take a pill and become immediately immortal would i? NO because the state of immortality that any pill could give is still a mortal existence.
God gives us death and the resurrection so we can leave this mortal existence and if we are worthy we can gain the greatest of all the resurrection bodies.

a similiar question is also given for space travel and exploration. The spirit might be able to go to kolob with just a thought. the resurrected body might have the same gifts and talents given or earned.
just a few years in this life and as long as we are not reincarnated, we can see and know everything. but before I visit Kolob, i can Ask in prayer and learn remote veiwing, or visit the Achoshic files. there are other things that can be done besides leaving earth.

as for Jesus and the city of zion, the former city of enoch, it is much closer by and many people have testified of seeing that place, the flying city ( i call it) possibly even the same: New Jerusalem. the place where streets are paved with gold. where the resurrected and the translated live.
thussaiththelord said this:

Mormons. if you could hie to KOLOB; would you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
http://www.timesandseasons.org/archives/000530.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBHu_KYrOEE


i reply:

touche'

well done :)
Kolob is the place Near Where God dwells, but it is written God does not dwell there ! He dwells above the Heaven of heavens. ( something like that)
just a little while longer and i will go where God sends me. hopefully it will be a place like unto kolob.

Source(s):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKM8rK0hZ...

sleep paralysis

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AvIWsI2mPgnbuvd6inUoITbd7BR.;_ylv=3?qid=20080810024934AAv

bayP
sleep paralysis caused by demons, fallen angels, or human drugs

Spiritual encounter , i think ????????
i woke last night , couldn't sleep for some reason ., just lying there in my bed i got the strangest

feeling , its was like something , some kinda force was pushing me back on the bed as i tried to get

up .. i tried to shout but was unable to . its was like this for about five minutes before it left

.anybody ever have an experience like this , . please help??

* 11 minutes ago
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sparky asked the question

i replied:
yes
by the hundreds people call coast to coast and testify of their paranormal or unexplained

experiences.

it is called "sleep paralysis"

the interesting facts can lead one to believe it is a super demonic or satanic power that causes this

effect, be lucky you dont get your body beaten up as many have testified of being punched and bruised

and other things, like being raped or sodomized.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008

revelation of heaven

in my opinion most people do not go to heaven
they go to a purgatory or a paradise which is lower degree of glory than Heaven.
in my opinion God exists above All heavens and only the sons of God are able to go there.
the lds church teaches that there are 3 heavens ( 3 degrees of glory) each degree has 3 levels in the resurrection. Until a person is resurrected They are limited to paradise or the city of zion, which might be New Jerusalem.
if there are 3 levels of separation in each degree of glory of the resurrection then that makes 9 levels of heaven glory.

Most people that are unbelievers are given the lowest 3 levels of the resurrection. it is sad to say also Most christians are found in the upper 2 levels of the bottom 3. Some do aquire the First level of the 2nd degree and they think it is heaven. Only the justified and sanctified seem to make it to the higher levels of the 2nd degree. and very few can make it to lower level of the third degree.

the definition of heaven is an ongoing Revelation for me.

tm rapture vs resurrection new revelation

shazib E asks:What is the rapture??
Argh!! What is the rapture? Gosh ! Oh and don't make it scary please :)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080805180207AAPJIvv&r=w#A4FOPkDFKHXU1Io2BSaP


I reply:

on the one hand it is a 19th century belief that believers will be taken out of the earth before the great tribulation starts.
on the other hand it is a perversion of the doctrines of the resurrection.

there are many verses which christians have compiled which they conclude the rapture means people will disappear one day and that the earth will enter a 7 year period of tribulation,

the rapture might be a series of beliefs erroneously added together to build a hypothetical belief that one day God will destroy the earth and all the people in it except the true believers, he will change them in a twinkling of an eye and they will be spared.

i say erroneously ! because there might not be a thousand people who are like that Enoch and Elijah and mohammed. They are the first 3 known people in the scriptures to have ascended without being resurrected.
However, people dont know about the Saints being resurrected with Christ and are called the first fruitfruits. they are the first resurrection. The bodies of those saints were joined with their spirits and Alive again they came into the holy city and around the world.
it will happen again when God destroys all things that offends and the wicked will be ashes under the feet of the righteous when the meek will inherit the earth.

Matt. 27: 52-53
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

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John 5: 28
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

1.
Isa. 26: 19
19 Thy dead men shall alive, together with bmy dead body shall they carise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

rgeb529 answered:
Rapture

Definition: The belief that faithful Christians will be bodily caught up from the earth, suddenly taken out of the world, to be united with the Lord “in the air.” The word “rapture” is understood by some persons, but not by all, to be the meaning of 1 Thessalonians 4:17. The word “rapture” does not occur in the inspired Scriptures.

When the apostle Paul said that Christians would be “caught up” to be with the Lord, what subject was being discussed?

1 Thess. 4:13-18, RS: “We would not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning those who are asleep [“those who sleep in death,” NE; “those who have died,” TEV, JB], that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” (Evidently some members of the Christian congregation in Thessalonica had died. Paul encouraged the survivors to comfort one another with the resurrection hope. He reminded them that Jesus was resurrected after his death; so, too, at the coming of the Lord, those faithful Christians among them who had died would be raised to be with Christ.)

jacqelinecheugn answered:
Rapture
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGklm4.JhIRksBgJNXNyoA/SIG=120pi5nsv/EXP=1218071096/**http%3a//www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=WbaWdyDipcw
this should help

when i shared this with tm
it came out like this:
[18:29] tailmister: I must admit though, the bible isn't easy to read.
[18:30] GoM2: this should help
[18:30] GoM2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbaWdyDipcw
[18:30] GoM2: lol nm
[18:30] GoM2: its a link to a music video
[18:30] GoM2: from jacqueline
[18:31] GoM2: oh reading the bible is easy to master
[18:31] GoM2: just use a dictionary for the hard words
[18:31] tailmister: right
[18:31] GoM2: but the verse i was speaking of in particular is the Issaiah verse
[18:32] GoM2: Isa. 26: 19
19 Thy dead men shall alive, together with bmy dead body shall they carise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
[18:33] GoM2: the earth shall cast out her dead, easy enought o understand?
[18:33] GoM2: but it also says "together" with my body
[18:33] GoM2: speaking of jesus being resurrected

[18:35] tailmister: interesting
[18:35] GoM2: truly i dont want to be preachy. but you just happened to walk by as i found this verse
[18:36] GoM2: and i was filled with exhileration (?) and i just had to share
[18:36] GoM2: I wont do it again if i have offended you

the prophecy of this verse was fulfilled in the firstfruits of christ.

familiar spirits Mediums

sorry to hear about the question deletion.
31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.

the interpretation of familiar spirits is not just limited to cats for witches and spirits of the deceased for mediums it can also have reference to dreams which are controlled by wizards or witches and sorceries.
the images of deceased spirits can be manipulated by fallen angels and by mortal people through dreams and hypnoNarcotics.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/answer?qid=20080805173421AAMcWFB

Friday, August 1, 2008

from bon-erhard on ET's and christian beliefs

im sorry the bible comes closer to saying there is life on other planets than Chrisians have been taught to believe.

there are at least 3 verses that i know of

they come from the other end of heaven
their weapons of warfare are mighty and (terrible)
ezekiel saw the wheel

i just a clip from hannity and he reported that 2 astronaughts state their beliefs that there are extra terrrestrial aliens
the book of urantia gives a detailed description of other planets even one galaxy named satanica.

i believe i have dreams of people lives that may be from other worlds.
i think its possible that George Lucas shares some of the same dreams and i believe it is not limited to my own dreaming.
The SONS of God are coming and they believe they have the right and i know they have the POWER to destroy all life on several planets.

not all et's are are green and 3 ft tall. Not all are freindly

testimonies of Other Military colonels and scientists have saind many things and many testimonies all say life exists. Fallen angels may come from satanica, they appear as angels and have religions created to their worship. the bible CLEARLY says that "flying serpents" harrassed Ancient Israel and there was poison that caused people to die.

No! christians! read your bible again and dont say what the truth is until you know what the facts of truth are.

Thursday, July 31, 2008

LDS falism asked:
Liberals have the crappiest foundation in the world
It took me a day to convert to conservatism. I was a liberal all my life and i didn't even realise it. And i have never seen a liberal win a debate. Why do you think that is?

* 55 minutes ago
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Additional Details

50 minutes ago
Ya, that's why they created a 2 party system.... Go figure.

37 minutes ago
Ya, i just got another $7,500 from the government for no reason. Thanks liberals. I love socialism in America.... Everyone looses.

37 minutes ago
Ya, i just got another $7,500 from the government for no reason. Thanks liberals. I love socialism in America.... Everyone looses.

i replied:
There is one thing in the bible that says God is LIberal
He giveth to all liberally, to those that ask of him.

i never could find the verse again

God can give liberally because He has all the ability to give. while he doesnt have more money than some, he owns our very souls. and at the same time He is conservative with his energy and with how much he gives.

the question of liberalism verses conservatism is a strawhat argument, it is used to divide and cause hate.
a true ecomony exists with communism, socialism and capital, through righteous dominion and correct management and principles of righteousness
the kingdom of God excercises all economic platforms and from the listed scriptures below, one must be corrected and change his beliefs.

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JS-H 1: 11, 13
11 While I was laboring under the extreme difficulties caused by the contests of these parties of religionists, I was one day reading the Epistle of James, first chapter and fifth verse, which reads: If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
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Deut. 15: 14
14 Thou shalt furnish him liberally out of thy flock, and out of thy floor, and out of thy winepress: of that wherewith the Lord thy God hath blessed thee thou shalt give unto him.

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James 1: 5
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
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2 Ne. 4: 35
35 Yea, I know that God will give liberally to him that asketh. Yea, my God will give me, if I bask not amiss; therefore I will lift up my voice unto thee; yea, I will cry unto thee, my God, the rock of my righteousness. Behold, my voice shall forever ascend up unto thee, my rock and mine everlasting God. Amen.
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D&C 46: 7
7 But ye are commanded in all things to ask of God, who giveth liberally; and that which the Spirit testifies unto you even so I would that ye should do in all holiness of heart, walking uprightly before me, considering the end of your salvation, doing all things with prayer and thanksgiving, that ye may not be seduced by evil spirits, or doctrines of devils, or the commandments of men; for some are of men, and others of devils.

others replied:
no one important said:Too bad the USA was founded by liberals

* 51 minutes ago

forgetwarbuymore said:
Your sphere of influence and exposure to the world must be rather small.

Edit: They actually didn't create the two party system with the Constitution. Washington didn't have a party affiliation and warned against it.

icomment: i agree thats what ive been taught too

Katie replied: If you were able to be convinced in 1 day, I'd say you didn't have very strong convictions. If you've never seen a conservative lose a debate, I'd say you haven't seen very many of them.
jek replied:conservatism is the early stages of fascism

* 49 minutes ago

i comment: is it really. or is facism just a military industrial complex way of saying we have money we can afford our our police force? Facism exist in all world powers regardless of philosophy or economic jurisdiction

tribeca said: Liberals look ahead to the unproven. That is how society progresses. Conservatives argue from the basis of maintaining the status quo. To some people that is always more appealing, Unfortunately, it results in societies becoming stagnant and sometimes even dying.

philipk said this: USA was founded to get rid of Liberalism. The all men are created equal thing really annoys Liberals. (Affirmativee Action proves that).

i comment: i dont believe the american founders wanted to get rid of liberalism, they wanted to get rid of oppression and be Free and to have the righte of liberty. it is my opinion that liberals often vote for individual rights despite the majority vote. im thinking of gay rights and handicapped

but at the same time a person who is oppressed is a positive proof there is no liberty or freedom.

ducky said this: The Foundation of the United States of America was created by Liberals.
Most all of them liberals and traitors to the conservative crown of England.

you didn't watch the Bill Clinton debates ?
you know that he won them and became President twice don't you ?

* 47 minutes ago

i comment: ducky there is no proof that clinton won the majority vote. as corrupt as He is (allegedly) there is now way to discern if all votes were manipulated. voter fraud

yep i said it said: Well I must admit that it took me a bit longer.....I became a conservative when I grew up and put away my selfish, "everybody owes me something" lazy attitude. It also helped when I got a job, started paying taxes, graduated from college and started raising a family! Besides that....REASON dictates that liberalism is completely flawed!

* 40 minutes ago

Source(s):
If you're not a Liberal by the time you're 20 you have no heart; if you're not a Conservative by the time you're 40 you have no brain.
Sir Winston Churchill

i comment: I disagree. read the scriptures God is liberally and he is most definitely older than 40. but he concserves his gifts to those that can properly maintain them, alittle here a little there! and more so if they prove worthy and EVEN UNTO THE POINT where he gives EVERYTHING that a person asks because sometimes people only ask for those things that are righteous

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3 Ne. 14: 7, 9-11
7 aAsk, and it shall be given unto you; bseek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
• • •
9 Or what man is there of you, who, if his son ask bread, will give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father who is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

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1 Ne. 15: 11
11 Do ye not remember the things which the Lord hath said?—If ye will not harden your hearts, and aask me in bfaith, believing that ye shall receive, with diligence in keeping my commandments, surely these things shall be made known unto you.

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3 Ne. 18: 20
20 And awhatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, which is right, believing that ye shall receive, behold it shall be given unto you.

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Moro. 7: 26
26 And after that he came men also were asaved by faith in his name; and by faith, they become the bsons of God. And as surely as Christ liveth he spake these words unto our fathers, saying: cWhatsoever thing ye shall ask the Father in my name, which is good, in faith believing that ye shall receive, behold, it shall be done unto you.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080731141157AAjfpIF

Tuesday, July 29, 2008

john ch 6:65,66

60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus aknew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this boffend you?
• • •
66 ¶ From that time many of his adisciples went back, and bwalked no more with him.

from these verses i have concluded it is possible for the majority of people to choose the wrong, not to mention to forget that sodom and gomorah were whole cities of people that chose the wrong and died because of the wages of sin.

it is possible For Jesus to Teach Direct truth and men to be blinded by false beliefs in weighing what is truth and correct and believe it to be wrong. in this example they said it was too hard

Later Jesus taught men will turn from sound doctrine and follow fables.

can anyone say LION KING. ?
1 Tim. 1: 4
4 Neither give heed to afables and endless genealogies, which bminister cquestions, rather than godly dedifying which is in faith: so do

  1. 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the atruth, and shall be turned unto bfables.
  1. 16 For we have not followed cunningly devised afables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were beyewitnesses of his majesty.

  1. 3 For the time will come when they will not aendure sound bdoctrine; but after their own clusts shall they heap to themselves dteachers, having itching ears;

Saturday, July 26, 2008

what are the causes of mental illness besides religion

this is one question I hate the most!
people of higher education think they know the truth of what is mental illness because they are taught to believe in a book.

the most fundament flaw in all psychology is the Non existence of God.
mental illnes has more than ONE source and psychology will not even admit that demonism and fallen angels can be ONE cause. that poisons and prescription and illegal drugs are a very major source of all the others mental illness. in my opinion.
those that practice making poisons are the first to deny it ! always.
because they are criminals

religious beliefs are not mental illness. NO.

sugar imbalance can be. stimulants can cause it too. Coffee or cafeine can cause memory loss. too much pcp can cause rage. lsd can cause paranoia.
the techniques of black magic have been testified that such practices can cause a mind to fracture some have even said that split personalities in mind control techniques are the desired results and sleep deprivation can cause mental illness as well.

is the book of mormon perfectly true or perfectly translated

after 20 years of studying the church doctrine i came across a few verses that i know are not true. i asked this question on yahooQA and i got the answer that the bom has a disclaimer, it is only translated correctly as far as men can do it. if there are errors it is the fault of humans! which verified for me that the book of mormon is not perfect either.
after a while i began to understand that men who were inspired by God wrote the things they believed were true according to traditions and history as well as according to the miracles and words of God. but the power of translation still came from God according to joseph smith testimony. but what was preserved was also the contentions of doctrines and the proof that people who called thmselves righteous were NOT righteous in deed. so the book of mormon preserves some things that are not true. as well as a Majority of everything else truth. let God reproove me or let him prove this is true.

Friday, July 25, 2008

what do you do when your child professes to be molested

there are so many possibilities,

pray to god,
forgiveness is an optimum factor no matter what.

i was molested at age 4 i was terrorized for 2 weeks. I was later again molested at age 8 and again at age ten.
I was drugged and raped at a college dorm party where my beer was drugged and i lost conscience after only a couple of sips
i woke up sometime 5 or 6 hours later and was driven home from an empty dorm room I had nighmares for 3 days

Anyway, Confrontation with the daughters father is the first act of righteousnes, bring the deeds done in darkness into the light.
the minister should react in a righteous manner, specifically bring the child to your attention and ask about the accusation.

you must have witnessess

a young child can be taught to repent and be proven to forsake this evil. if nothing works make a police report of sexual offense so that it is documented.

habitual offenders are taken out of society
repentant believers are forgiven.

but there might also be an underlying cause of her actions. such as being a victim herself. She might also be a victim of rape and sexual abuse, in fact i would say the probability is close to 100%

also council your own daughter. this world is evil beyond just a little molestation. people are killed for similar crimes.

you can ignore everything and do nothing, hoping that prayer alone will move the spirit of God and hope the other girl will repent with more maturity.

i am still plagued by dreams and the offenses of others, even though my beliefs are centered on perfect repentance.