Wednesday, April 30, 2008

can a man be perfect?

A question never asked: is it acceptable in large families not to flush the the toilet except if you have a ?

Bowel movement. or to flush only once or twice a day! i was a foster child in a family ten or 12.

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in droubt it is acceptable: agreed!
what about septic tanks not sewer! ???
i think that is agreable too.
if it smells yes.
cleaning the toilet is a daily chore with so many kids for sanitary needs.
even with one or two people once a month is pushing the sanitation.

jennifer:Only if you are in a drought condition.

I believe in saving water, but I don't want my bathroom to smell like a latrine. Plus, if 3 other people peed in the toilet, and I have "splashing" as my feces hits the water... umm... eww.

travis: Yeah for some families it's acceptable. I've know a lotta guys who had rules like don't flush for pee, only for turds and things like that. Water conservation probably.

We had a dog who drank out of the toilet so we had to flush every time AND remember to keep the lid and seat up.

jes:I live in georgia with my bf and we often dont flush No.1

Then again, we're in a drought, so it's just good for the environment to wait for a BM or for the toilet paper to build up

olan black: it is not really unusual. they have a drought conditions here in North Carolina, so the saying is "if yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down. exceptions are if it starts to stink, or just looks really yellow like somebody hasn't drank water in days

alliesmom: I don't think I'd be able to handle that. Even if you have a lot of kids, I think that's just gross...My niece and nephew, who are like 9 and 13 NEVER flush the toliet no matter what they do in it. Oh my goodness, I get sooo mad when I come along and find an unflushed toliet. Okay, if they were like 3 or 4, I might understand, but it seems like they are way too old for that.

Wouldn't your bathroom start to stink? So did your family do this growing up? What did you do if you had company?

Who knows? I might feel differently if I was the parent of 10-12 kids...

latj: OK, this is the etiquette section so I am going to answer from that point of view. It is absoluetly not acceptable not to NOT flush the toliet after each use unless there is some type of GOVERNMENT DROUGHT RELATED ISSUE. Flushing is there for sanitary reasons. I have never heard of such. Maybe there is a reason I haven't heard of but it would seem quite unsanitary and wrong.
If you are a foster child and this is bothering you, isn't there someone at school or someone you can tell this to? This does bother me. It just doesn't seem right. Sewage water isn't charged by the number of times you flush a toliet.
I could be wrong, but this doesn't seem like a sanitary condition.

rabia0623: If it's brown, flush it down; it's it's yellow let it mellow!

This has worked just fine for my family. Just remember to flush before company comes and no one will ever have to know.

curious: this question is never asked for a reason...must everything be discussed???

answerer: Always flush the toilet after you deposit something. Uneconomical for the water? Perhaps, but that's far less drastic than someone using the toilet and having some unfriendly foreign substance come splashing upon their backside. If you've ever used a Port-o-John you know exactly what I'm talking about. No matter what kind of cleaner that nasty blue water is made of. The defecation backsplash is horrifically life changing.

ms4peace: Ewwwwww No! At one point there were 9- 10 of us living together but we all flushed after each use...

shakes: totally, but with that many people I would do it a few more times than that, just sanatize daily. we do that and i clean the bowl everynight with a green safe cleaner.
if it's yellow let it mellow.

mormontimes article writings support Lds doctrine

http://mormontimes.com/DB_index.php?id=988

this is cool, i actually added a photo in this blog!

By Rodger L. Hardy
Deseret News
Published: Monday, Apr. 28, 2008
Ancient writings unearthed in the last century and a half, primarily in Egypt, are lending support to doctrines and teachings of Joseph Smith, founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a Brigham Young University professor of antiquities said Sunday.

C. Wilford Griggs, who has written extensively on Egypt and is working on excavating Christian burial grounds in Egypt, said scholars are now admitting that "Joseph Smith got into the antiquities" before experts in the field began their discoveries, but they won't accept his explanation.

Smith, an uneducated farm boy, claimed he translated the Book of Mormon from ancient gold plates using instruments given him by an angel, but scholars are refusing to believe that, Griggs said during a fireside, "Joseph Smith and the Egyptian Connection," at the Pleasant Grove Manila Stake Center. Some of the ancient writings have been found in the past few years.

Many scholars are now admitting that the book accepted as scripture by church members is an ancient book, but as one scholar of antiquities told Griggs, he had no problem with the gold plates and Smith's story would be acceptable "if you'd get rid of that angel."

Anciently, the fountain of Christian knowledge was Egypt and the Mediterranean region and for about 1,000 years 90 percent of the people were in the faith "until they were converted to Islam by the sword," he said.

"We are being flooded with (ancient) writings," Griggs said, describing many as coming from the biblical New Testament period. Many of the writings, now totaling about 8,000, are on papyri, but others are on metal plates. None are exactly alike, which lends historical credence to the finds.

The apostles scattered throughout the known world and established pockets of Christianity after the time of Jesus Christ, including Egypt, he said. Some of the best early Christian records were found in Egypt, where they survived because of the climate.

The traditional concept that the Bible is complete came about 400 A.D., he said. Before then Christians knew that many other writings existed.

Many of the Christian teachings found in Egyptian digs that are shared in common with Smith's teachings have to do with the temple "and how the heavens can be open to us," Griggs said.

Among those findings is the teaching of baptism by proxy for folks who have died without learning of Christ and his gospel, which centers on the resurrection. Anciently, baptism was known as a "sealing" to go to heaven, he said. The word "sealing" is used today in LDS temples in similar fashion.

Most of the writings which have now been found were secret anciently and held back from the people until they proved their worthiness. Some speak of the potential of their divinity, also a common theme Smith taught, which the first LDS prophet said was given to him by revelation.

"Several of the gospels ... show that revelation was alive and well in the ancient world. Revelation was a keystone," Griggs said.

Yet centuries later, revelation and temples were denounced by religious leaders, including Augustine, as unnecessary.

66/40 bibles Scripture Angels books complete

66/40? wtf! the word of GOD is not bound!?

can true christian organizations really limit the word of God and truth to 66 books and 40 authors?

I KNOW it is an "abomination"
to teach this!

can anyone rebuke and reprove me of this belief?

also forgive me of the anogram wtf. pls. :)

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2 Tim. 2: 9
9 Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

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2 Ne. 29: 3-4, 6, 10
3 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.

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6 Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?

10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.

midnightcrier said this:
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" (Rev. 22:18)

"But though we, or AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN (in case you are mormon), preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Gal. 1:8)

Does God's word lie? I think not.

EDIT: So, in your add'l. details, are we quoting from the Apocrypha, to prove that the books of the Apocrypha are indeed, scripture? I don't think so. Their worth as instruction and reproof was then, and still is now, in doubt. The KJV was translated from over 5,300 original non-corrupted manuscripts which were used by every single non-heretical translation since the first century. Those books were not included in that. If you are catholic, then by all means, study and apply them to your life. Why not? Fits right in with the teaching of Limbo and Purgatory.

translation can be the worst enemy of truth and interpretation can be misquoted by satan or wolves in sheeps clotthing or fallen angels and false prophets and false teachers and false traditions and by sincere christians as well.

you said this in reply to my question:
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" (Rev. 22:18)

"But though we, or AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN (in case you are mormon), preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Gal. 1:8)

I reply:
These are 2 of my most favorite anti mormon verses that you quoted above. they both have been said ten thousand times if not a million.
rebuttle :

Deut. 4: 2 (2-3).
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.
does this not imply by the same context that nothing shouldve been written after Moses!

As for angels, . However in the same book you HAVE to admit is scripture! An angel is declared to have the everlasting gospel to GIVE to the inhabitants of the Earth.
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Rev. 14: 6
6 And I saw another ANGEL fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel

there are other things to say about angels giving false religions but there are also other things about restoration and apostacy

rev wright Both God damn and Bless america

i dont forsee your soothsaying :) can be correct
however, i am white, and not racist. i question my separatist religious training too. but i understand the reason why it exists.

there was a couple years where everytime I heard someone say "god bless" america! I would always say: NO ! God Damn america. Why? because there americans in this country who are Greater threats to the country are greater terrorists than any taliban or alqueada.
sometimes you just have to listen to what Alex jones has been saying. Go to you tube and look up Godomars and listen to the photo journals i paste over there!

but despite what Alex jones is crying on the watch tower about! There are other things that have terrorized me! like having my bones in my feet get broken while i sleep. not just one time but 3x! Drug rapists and sodomites are also a terror to every person who is righteous. there are so many evils and criminals that will terroize american citizens who are themselves americans and both black and white and of mixed races everywhere that I could not EVER in my right mind and peace of conscience Not pray To God that This country be "damned".

i know if this country does not repent, this country will not exist, sooner or later it will be destroyed. there might be a remnant spared, there are a few prophecies on that count.
I pray that patriots everwhere see that the like of patriotism that is in rebellion against the righteousness of God will utterly be destroyed. I wish i could pray that men will repent and that God will bless america again in the future. but right now i have to agree with rev wright.

cocain in the air 2

There’s something in the air in Rome: cocaine
Scientists also find articles of marijuana, caffeine and tobacco
NBC World Blog
NBC News correspondents and producers around the globe share their insight on news events.

Updated: 1:12 a.m. PT June 1, 2007
ROME - Scientists have discovered particles of cocaine and marijuana, as well as caffeine and tobacco, in the air of Italy’s capital, they said on Thursday.

The concentration of drugs was heaviest in the air around Rome’s Sapienza university, though the National Research Council’s Dr. Angelo Cecinato warned against drawing conclusions about students’ recreational habits.

Calling their study “the first in the world to show the presence of particles of cocaine suspended in the atmosphere of the city,” the researchers said they took samples in Rome, the southern city of Taranto and in Algiers in North Africa.

Nicotine and caffeine weredetected in all three, “showing how widespread consumption of these substances is and how they remain in the atmosphere,” state-funded CNR said in a statement.

The concentration of cocaine in Rome’s atmosphere was only 0.1 nanograms (1 nanogram is one billionth of a gram) per cubic meter at its height during winter months, the researchers said. But the conclusions were worrying for public health.

“It is well documented that even small concentrations in the air of these pollutants can seriously damage health,” said Dr. Ivo Allegrini of the CNR’s Institute for Atmospheric Pollution.

3:00 PM 6/2/2007
thats not NEW, at least to me! and to the audience of coast to coast!

in times past C2C audiences havebeen complaining about "chem" trails.
and how planes would fly overhead and make clouds, but the air would be poisoned, and on a clear day, the chem trails would make the people sick.
I personally worked as a security guard near Seattle, where I purchased my first million watt search light and plugged it into the cigarette lighter, and on a clear day I was able to see Invisible "snow" flakes falling around me when the light reflected off them. but with the naked eye they could not be seen.

On another day, a small plane actually flew overhead and dropped brown pellets all over me where i was parked, and i could see the road get covered like Hail, and as i sat there and watched, the pelletts evaporated into a mist. and then it was gone.

on a third day, another plane flew over head, and i have no doubt, that it dropped someting else, and I immediately Blacked out, and it is possible that i died, because very quickly I beheld ONE like thestereotypical ST Peter at the Pearl Gate, and i got the sense i was about to be judged. At that moment I declared BOLDLY that i believe in jesus christ, and a second later i opened my eyes, still sitting in my car but slumped over against the door. I also WOKE up, or was revived, and had ONE of the Worst Migraines i have ever had in my life.

Nope, indeed, ive known about the Polutions of the air, infecting Temples and chapples and meetinghouses, in all the churches, my whole life.
The greatest act of poisoning the air, i have ever witnessed was either at the Provo Or OGDEN meeting house, for the LDS church, and the Baptist Temple In Anchorage alaska. in the baptist temple, it took other spotlights to see the Chemical Particles in the air before i realized i was being "drugged" against my will, while at the same time people were declaring they HAD the SPIRIT of God, fill their hearts.

the ramifications are intense!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18974208/

One additional coincidence, as i tried to share this blog with others, my internet connection was immediately disconnected.

cocain in the air 2

Updated: 1:12 a.m. PT June 1, 2007
ROME - Scientists have discovered particles of cocaine and marijuana, as well as caffeine and tobacco, in the air of Italy’s capital, they said on Thursday.

Nicotine and caffeine weredetected in all three, “showing how widespread consumption of these substances is and how they remain in the atmosphere,” state-funded CNR said in a statement.

“It is well documented that even small concentrations in the air of these pollutants can seriously damage health,” said Dr. Ivo Allegrini of the CNR’s Institute for Atmospheric Pollution.

3:00 PM 6/2/2007
thats not NEW, at least to me! and to the audience of coast to coast!

the ramifications are intense!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18974208/

One additional coincidence, as i tried to share this blog with others, my internet connection was immediately disconnected.

china invasion

while online i found a conversation with a man who received a dream
where he saw the flags of chine on U.S soil, i think he said he saw
them as far in as nevada.

my personal inspiration was very similar, i believed that china would
someday invade the west coast of U.S. but at the same time i wrote
that if china invaded the west coast, they would LOSE if they went
farther inland to the east. something like that.

thats what i wrote last year, was it true inspiration or a warning! or false inspiration?

statue liberty vision

within the week of 911, i found myself in shock, but my current
biblical studies were revolved around Babylon and the wicked city.

while at work, iwas in a state of prayer and i asked the question
What is the city of babylon, and immediately, with my eyes open, I
saw the statue of liberty before me.

i dont know anything more than that.

except, that 2 weeks before 911, i yelled in Extreme Anger and
prophesied to an empty theatre, that thousands would die, women and
children grandparents and others. The most wickedness in the world
had been persecuting me and torturing me, and I was forced to invoke
the power of God to destroy the most wicked.
When 911 did happen, i fell in shock that God would destroy people
or allow it to happen, and withhold his hand of protection.

but at the same time, for years, i had been suffering tortures,
torments, and physical abuse(s). Hence the reason for the extreme
prophecy and rage. when it happened, I was not in any state of
terror, in fact, I slept well the entire week, for the first time in
years.
what are the conclusions?
if New York is the city of babylon, than americans need to
reevaluate their beliefs completely.
the experience of Peace of mind during a national crisis, while
people held their guns in bed to protect their families in a
national crisis of paranoia proved to me that something evil and
very great evil exists in America. that not only ONCE did God allow
disaster to come ashore, but tha Katrina followed as well. it, the
power of God destroyed the most evil city in america, although i
dont think many others are far behind it, in the same kind of
destruction.

cocaine in the air

yes there was a study done, cocaine was found in the air, the article i read on Reuters i think said it was tested in Italy or Rome.
I also testified that I can see the same thing in a baptist church and mormon meetinghouse. dont know if it was cocaine in the air but anyone can see it if they visit either meeting place both in utah and in anchorage alaska.

especially when the lights are turned down and spot lights are turned on.

Yahoo QA removed these two questions, im pretty sure i was given a violation too.

ten billion(ormore) killed in the name of satan

With 100 million killed in God's name do you think He's saying. "What are these crazy religious people doing?"

question asked by liberty11235

best answer given by priestcalledordained:

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with TEN billion people killed in the name of Satan, in open rebellion against the truth, how can you accuse God of what men do when they follow Evil?

liberty commented: Our World must exist as a balance of both. One without the other is capable of ending life on this planet.

i reply: as long as there is a God, evil will destroy evil, continually, but righteous men will rise above the natural world and become servants on a planet for no less than 200 generations.

we are born with the spirit of christ in us

Do you know we are born with the spirit of Christ in Us?

Everyone has a conscience, so many references. This is why we all want to worship some God. John 8:9, Acts 2:37, Rom 2:15, 13:5, 1 Cor 8:7, 2 Cor 4:2, 5:11, Eph 4:19, 1 tim 1:5, 3:9, 4:2 , 2 tim 1:3, Titus 1:154 Heb 9:14, 1 Pet 2:19

this question was asked by Ronnie B

best answer given by Snow:

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yes

there might be two things to consider!
first when i was not a christian but new born again! i prayed to be baptized with the holy spirit.
an angelic personage appeared in my bedroom my room and my mind was filled with complete white light. I believed i was baptized. many christians say it was satan. superstition? maybe.
When i came to know of the church and joseph smiths testimony, someone corrected me that I had not received the gift of the holy Ghost. Also another distinction! when president bensen was given a solemn assembly i refused to sustain him because i did not agree with something he said in a previous Gen Conf. While living with my dad and sleeping in the back of my van, i found the promise of the gift of the holyghost but recognized i had not received it. i humbled myself and did my own solemn "sustaining" of the pres and a spirit or aparation appeared behind me and layed his hands on my head and gave me a blessing. i subsequently received 3 visions of jesus. one of which i think was out of body the other 2 had the appearance of heaven in the presense of jesus.

why did i share this testimony! because there are now 3 different versions of the spirit of God, the gift of the holy Ghost being supreme over the other 2. the promise of the Holy Ghost is given to those that fulfil the new and everlasting covenant and despite temple ordinances and sealing the promise is not always guaranteed. so i assume that there is a 4th gift of the H.G.

resurrectionDc104#17waterresourcesWordofthelord

in the scriptures it clearly says in Matthew 27:52 that many saints that slept already rose from the grave. but it says elsewhere that Every Person will be resurrected, and from this statement i heard the estimate that it will be 75 billion people that will eventually be resurrected. i rounded off the estimate that 100 billion will have to live under the reign of Christ in the kingdom of God. (and just as write this a guy shouts out that 100 billion will live) There are two things to consider,
in the LDS church it is written: "there is enough to spare". when speaking of natural resources. so truly even if it is only 75 billion people that will live on this planet One has to conclude That God will Righteously manage the resources, and there was once a conversation had, that in order to House All those people they will live in a building that will fill up half the United States in a foundation from florida to texas and north to the canadian border, and will rise in height all the way into space. the fact that everyone can fit into the state of texas is true, but it is unreasonable to say that everyone needs 12 acres to survive is not true. Not if the other half of the nation can grow enough food for the rest of us. and it all depends on what kind of technology Jesus will give us. Not everyone will live in a mansion and most will probably only live in an apartment according to their needs. While it is wise
to See a need to change the way things work in our economy I think it is also Faithful to say That God will provide. But then again Satan and the aluminati and the one world government are designed to kill off most of the population anyway, so we dont need to worry, just accept death when it comes. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/104/17#17 For the earth is full, and there is enough and to spare; yea, I prepared all things, and have given unto the children of men to be agents unto themselves. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/john/5/29#29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. but only the sons of perdition will be lost, can you please forward to frosty?

bibleAuthorityReply to Doma

Doma, what an interesting name! the only Doma i have ever known lived in anchorage alaska and worked for Charlettes Web.

however interesting the quote is, and it is interesting! the word of God, here, in hebrew, may not be the written word that is magnified.
and knowing that truth is not limited to the words contained in the bible, nor is Gods' word bound by man, it must be the spoken word: Rama, that is magnifed above his name. !!

but at this point it is conjecture based on scripture study that i know.

also, i have often taught that anyone who claims authority from the bible is either truly guilty of idolatry or very near unto IT. for authority is not given to man, except, or like it says in the new testament itself, a man cannot take this honor unto himself but must by given like Aaron received it from Moses. by the will of God and the laying on of hands.

thats what i wanted to say to Doma!

this is what i sent:
how can i say anything you can receive of my words and understanding!??? sigh.

I am a witness of jesus christ, i am ordained both priest and elder, ive had at least 3 visions of jesus and 1 of them is a visitation that was out of body and another vision of an Angel, that appeared in my room. I often asked myself whether what i saw was the HOLY Ghost or not? at the time I thought it was jesus himself. So, this is where i come come from as a disciple of the bible and the gospel! i was alway truly intent on studying the scriptures and proving all things.

but 2 things come to mind when i read this message about the word of God being magnified.
1: is the word of God spoken of here the written word or the spoken word?
2: is giving the scriptures in the written form an exaltation Universal authority above all truth an exageration! or is it near unto idolatry? to do so in my experience would replace the holy Ghost and make the written word more important than the comforter who reveals and leads into all truth?

it might be that the author was giving glory and honor to the writen word but the author overlooked a very important fact if this is true! that Jewish prophets were often killed and their words of God were often outlawed, which wouldve been scripture if they had existed to the days of constantine!

this is what Doma wrote to me!
From: Doma

Subject: Bible

Message: Well its not the end of all truth since Paul said this:

1 Cor 13:12: For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

But the Bible is the Highest authority in all the universe, it even has more authority than God's name:

Psalms 138:2:
"...for thou has magnified thy word above all thy name."

you wrote:
But the Bible is the Highest authority in all the universe, it even has more authority than God's name:

is that written somewhere! "highest authority in all the universe" or is that Doma 1:1 or is it taught in bible believing churches, anywhere.

i am very concerned over that statement in quotes. there are many reasons. one of which i emailed you previously.
think about this! if there is life in all of the 70 sextillian stars in the known universe, if God has people on any ONE planet out there! then the scriptures would be written by entirely different prophets probably in different languages and most probably without a doubt in different words.
Entire worlds, could therefore be conceived of and destroyed before the bible was ever formed in 300 ad when constantine made it. or had it made.

think about this and pray, ponder. The bible does not have authority, the prophets who were given authority wrote it but there are more prophets that ever lived that are not canonized.

Why do people hate mormons?

I am mormon there is NOTHING WRONG WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!! I am normal. I am in a punk rock band, and we belive in the same jesus as everybody else! who is satans brother?! we are normal people! the only difference is, is that we dont smoke or drink! we dont have 1 million wives!

asked by jona c.

best answer replied by ME:

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False theology and doctrines of men dominate the christian world. Rumors and gossip and superstition dominate the traditions of mankind.

Every time a prophet is raised up by god, the church, wherever it is located, geographically, strays from the prophet and the teachings of God. They adopt the above and begin to change the words of God into the works of satan. Satan like wolves in sheeps clothing take over, and the church becomes like the angels warns of in REv 18:4.
the people of God begin and do follow satan rather than God.
So when God raised up this church, the understanding of the gospel had changed from the first gospel to something that is not of God. therefore people follow the wrong compass and because their direction is wrong their interpretation is wrong.

So it was with the leaders of Israel in the generation of Jesus. the sandhedrin, the pharisees and the saducees all had incorrect gospel doctrine, even though they had prophetts. it is possible their leaders were completely Possesed by devils incarnate and thus intentionally led astray.

jonah c made a comment: who ever wrote this, i felt sooo good when i read this answer. it made me feel so much better when i read it, i thank you, i can tell that you are a member of the church, thank you! LDS RULES

other answers were:

elaine replied:It's because people don't fully understand your religion. For the most part, it's ignorance.

I don't know you, so I don't mean this directly toward you, but in my PERSONAL experience, it seems that of the few Mormons I know, the MAJORITY of them tend to preach, and judge against people that drink or smoke. There's one person in particular that always makes snide remarks about everyone and everything, except this person also drinks sodas and caffeine. How can you judge, when you're also not following what your religion's "rules" are? Like I said, this isn't directed towards you, since I don't know you, I just hope you're not like that. I've met some really cool Mormons.

I think that everyone should have respect for their beliefs and opinions, however, that also means having respect for others.

rona replied: Because most are misinformed.

I am a Christian and believe that mormons (aside from the splinter cells that advocate polygamy) are good, decent people and are not a "cult". Their bible has a few extra chapters than mine, but its basically the same principles.

Unfortunately most peoples education of Mormon religion/community comes from the 6 o'clock news when the latest ranch is raided.

kitser kosh replied:It's not necessarily just Mormons. People are rude to all kinds of people for all kinds of judgemental reasons. I think people like to point out and judge other people's differences because THEY have a personal problem related to insecurities. Anyone who is trying to tear down someone else's beliefs isn't being very Christian. For some reason people like to bash others beliefs because they think it makes the religion they are a part of better or something.
Read Joseph Smith History 1:9 and 19. That always puts people who behave like that into perspective for me.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1

mangtomasito replied:When I think Mormon, I think white shirt, black tie and little black plastic name tags - too corporate for me ( I expect little stars to appear on the badges, McD style).
On the street I find that they (you) choose to engage me, the same as market researchers, at the most inopportune times.

Why not rent small stalls on short term basis at malls, etc and make a really attractive display that will encourage passers by to approach you and perhaps ask questions?

yoyomamma replied: I blame you for the Osmonds. Especially that annoying, chubby little dwarf Jimmy who makes me want to nuke Branson, MO every time I see him on TV.

But seriously, I've only ever had one Mormon "friend" and when he finally was perfectly clear that I was never going to be a Mormon i was no longer invited to his home and I never heard from him again. I've worked with other Mormons, but I can't say that I've known any to have non-Mormon friends. Could just be my isolated experience, but if it's not, then I would say that people are suspicicious of what they don't know. Folks that make an effort to keep seperate based on their religious beliefs are going to be suspect. Jews have dealt with this and so will you I suppose. And of course the FLDS is making the name "Mormon" real respectable right now.

nikosp replied:Hate is a strong emotion; I'd say they're rather being disliked. Mainly because of their isolationism and their inclination to stick out of the mass (f.ex. their antiquated appearance and ways).

In Europe they're being disliked (mainly by the church authorities and other religious freaks) because they try to convert people in the ex-communist block countries.

imtheonlycathy replied: Your victim mentality is showing.

People don't hate mormons. People hate lies and liars, though.

People really DON'T hate mormons. They just don't trust a religion quite possibly based on deception created by convicted con artists, that's all.

And if someone tries to show you that something is a lie, for your own good, do YOU hate them for doing it? Do you call them names or insult them personally because they try to tell you the truth? That kind of behavior can be seen every day on Y!A (and it's not limited to mormons, b/c Christians and cultists of all kinds do the same thing). It says a lot about a person - esp. if you readily take offense, when none is intended.

Christians, though, shouldn't expect everything to be peachy. Jesus said:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it."

He also said the Truth would set you free. My advice is to always seek the truth, no matter what the consequences.

http://www.josephlied.com/bicentennialboy.html

suebeeroo replied:I think a lot Mormons are misunderstood because the only press you guys get are due to polygamists and splinter groups.

That said...

(Forgive my ignorance PLEASE ...) But my understanding is that the Mormon faith was started by a self-declared prophet? I think for most folks who consider themselves Christians,after the time of Jesus the days of prophets were over. That might lend itself to the perception that Mormonism is a little bit "cult-ish".

~!what!~ replied:Did you say that Jesus was Satan brothers? That is not true! Once again it is amazing the way people interpret the bible mainly to prove their own points, politics and religion. True blasphemy.
People only hate what the do not understand. The media is not helping your cause; yet , I don't know if the fanatic Mormons are helping either if the allegations are true. Multiple wives is one thing but 40 plus year old men bearing children with females under the age 18, 16, 14? The women are looking the other way. does that sound moral to you?

LindaK replied: People hate that which they don't understand.....
Ignorance is bliss...............
Although I don't think they hate us - they just allow their own narrow vantage point to prevent them from seeing a fuller picture of what LDS faith is truly about and they accept & buy into the lies & half truths that have been passed on for 150 years by mormon persecuters and other pastors & leaders of other faiths who fear what they do not fully understand - instead of coming to an opinion and true knowledge with their own brains & abilities themselves. THOSE who know us - love & accept & appreciate us and recognize the lies and propoganda that many people cling to with unwavering stupidity.

You have to realize too that if people accept what we believe - that would mean they would have to abandon the long held to doctrines and traditions that have been past on for generations and generations and THAT is far too difficult for most humans to feel capable of doing. We all CLING to our faith so tightly - it often stops us from seeing something even bigger and better that might be right in front of our eyes.

beachlady replied: umm I dont hate you.... I do hate the leaders past and present that keeping pulling the WOOL over the young and very vunerable mormons and recent converts...
IT IS really obvious! Thats what happened to me..but they sugar coat everything!

Have you been through the temple? I had a problem with it. When I stood back and relized what the he-- I as really doing...

Plus the FLDS and LDS religion stemed straight form the TEACHINGS of Joseph Smith!!
LDS is just saving polygamy until after death! Thats the truth...look it up!

D R Cocksauce replied: they dont hate mormans
they hate the radicals that broke away from the church and still belive in poligamy and force sex on minors at there houses in texas.
its just sometime the real mormans cach crap from the ignorant..and it also dident help theat the media still called them morman any way.. what a sham

qman31500 replied: I don't hate Mormons. I have many in my family.

The LDS Jesus must always stay distinct from the Biblical Christian version. They are very different. One was created by Elohim, the other has always been God and was made man in Jesus. We can disagree, but le'ts not confuse the issue.

The LDS believe that through obedience to laws and ordinances, they are saved. Works cause God to give you a reward in heaven. Biblical Christians claim that responding to God through faith is all that's required, our works being the result of God's work in us, not the cause. Again, we can agree to disagree, but in no way should these ever be confused.

There is considerable evidence against the truth claims of Mormons which make people like me wonder why you'd trust Joseph Smith, but you choose to. Okay. You believe that you belong to the only true and living church on the face of the earth. I believe that no church can make this claim. The power is in Jesus, not a church. Again, we disagree. Or when Mormons declare all creeds and religious teachers to be an abonimation, I don't agree, but your scriptures teach that. So this isn't a light issue, but nothing to hate each other over.

Christians don't think they can grow up to Gods, your church teaches that you can. Good luck with that. The LDS view of celestial marriage remains polygamous marriage even in today's D&C, so glad you don't have lots of wives, but it's still part of your history and teachings.

BTW, glad to hear you're a punk rocker. Do you realize you'd be playing in church if you were an evangelical Christian? Dude, wouldn't it be cool to lay down some tube screamer rock while praising Jesus?

precious replied: I don't hate mormons, I just think they follow a bunch of religious CRAP. They know a religion, not Jesus or who God really is. If they DID, than they'd be "allowed" to do things like drink or smoke because to God it doesn't matter what we do or not do, it's all about Him and who He is.

aralyn replied: Because you're different, and because people don't know about it. People are cruel, and when they don't understand something, they put it down and make up reasons to justify their feelings.

It's wrong, but at least you have strong faith and a happy life. You're at least one step ahead of them! :-)

P.S. I don't hate Mormons. ;-)

moraise fate replied: Could it be that they have weird ideas and harass us in our homes? Yeah, I think thats it.

Btw... don't tell me that Mormons don't have weird ideas, I've known far too many Mormons.

And the next time one of you people follows me down the street preaching, I'm macing you in the face. Three times in two years and the only thing that got them to leave me alone was threatening to call the cops.

tireboy11 replied:

I don't hate Mormons! I don't hate anyone. I am a christian, I don't smoke or drink and I have only one wife! If you are classing or judging, maybe you have your answer!

21 hours ago

pixie star replied: dont listen to people, dont let them judge you, be confident with who you are...

plus no one could ever want more than one wife, at least no sane person, one woman is a hanful, imagine that multiplied by a milion...*shudders*

got air bugged replied:I don't hate you. In fact, hate is not an attribute of being a Christian so I tend to ignore those who show hatred toward me and suggest you consider doing the same.

phrog replied: don't take it personal. most people don't like people who are different from them. anything else (ie: 'different Jesus, etc claims) are just excuses to justify the original dislike of someone different.

ryan replied: Because some people can not respect the views and beliefs of others. These same people who show no respect for others, often get offended when they believe that others have disrespected their views and beliefs oddly enough.

joshue: Where did you get such stereotype everyone should respect you for who you are not by what you do but even if there is such people then pray for them or what ever is that you do ( and no am not making fun of no one)

Capt kraken hunter: I don't know anyone by the name of Mormon, well except that guy that condensed the Book of Mormon. Are you a Mormon?

They don't realise that their doctrines save us too.

tamrn02: Because they generally push their religion on others. Your right though I think most people are misinformed when it comes to Mormons and relate you to the radicals out there.

Unicool:I don't mind what religion other people choose to follow, but i know there certainly wasn't a Jewish civilization in America 2000 years ago

ohbaby10:Unfortunately there will always be people who hate others just for being different than they are.

angel:because they come to your door and try and push their religion on you.
it incredibly rude to bug people at home and try and convert them to their religion.

kerry: Everyone loves to hate a winner!

falism: the doctrine is some of the greatest stuff i have ever seen. I love understanding the gospel.

michaelw: Mormons are one of the few groups it is PC to bash. Probably because it is 99% white.

truthseeker:Nobody hates Mormons. I am trying to help show Mormons where their faith is misplaced.

donna b:why ask why

mandylou:I am not a Mormon,but I don't hate them either,

heavenElizabeth:Why do people hate?
Hate is such a strong word...

philanthropist4life: because if you take out the second m it spells MORONS.

answer: SLC Punk

Have you seen that movie?

A lot of people take the poetry and prophecy from 1000's of years ago very literally. Some folks believe that the bible was written by god himself. Those people find it hard to believe that a "real" prophet could have existed in Babylon, I mean, America.

REFeRENCE: people ignore shepherds. Groups, Families and individuals like Power. If everyone united then less sects like the mormans would have the power that they have over abused, stupid, and weak people. People like to hate each other, make fun of each other, and have gang fights. Even the weak and stupid people like to spectate this stuff, so it works out perfectly.

Yeah, and a lot of people went out west to escape the church which was so conservative and dominate in the east. I belive that the mormans kind of went out west to make a church that was more conservative, and more dominate.
You know what I mean?

I'm not from that area, but I was there last week, and I saw tons of homeless people; mormans are housing better than San Francisco does, but they are mormanizing them pretty heavily. I actually went to school with some mormans in a different area of the country where they were an extreem minority. They were not allowed to watch secular television, movies, music ect.. ect... Also they had to go on a mission before they could go to college. I dont think anybody hated them at my school near as much as everyone hated me. I cant realy see that anyone hated them at all.

I can say, that the mormans on missions look realy silly, and probably anoy people, by knocking on doors and asking them to chalange their own belifs. This may be some of the explanation for hate.

I think some chicks feel harassed and like the group of guys at their door wants to marry them off to one of the dudes, and breed them. This might make some 20th or 21st century american women kind of mad.

I remember a young group of rave kids I encountered in Colorado 10 or 15 years ago, who were wild, and were from SLC, but had come to Colorado to escape the conservative nature (opression) of SLC.

All in all, It is not the mormans, or the zionists with multiple wives, or the liberal agnostics that people hate. It is god, and or humanity itself which the people hate so much, and it is because they desire to dominate, and control.

hope that answers some questions for you.

I reply: i think i received this best answer award because of bias, but i will take it, :) anyway, i hope i can kindle a freindship with jona. to answer his question! i was devout LDS most of my adult life, so far. I have a testimony which i think rivals some prophets, but i am inactive because of a certain thing i cannot come to terms with. being poisoned by members of the church. I dont know if it is the power of God to cast poison/meds into the air. for 10 to 13 years i suffered sleep derpivation because of some of the poisons in the church and out of it. plus 6 months. but i believe purely most everything in the lds canon.

there is a reason for people which is righteous, to leave a church. i once asked: is it more righteous to NOT go to church Ever?

Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Mormons what do you say about the trinity doctrine?

Mormons, what do mormons and jehova witnesses say about the trinity?

i know there is a difference. i believe Joseph Smith said it best when he said the Trinity is an imagination of a Man.
therefore if the trinity is a false doctrine, it can be said that christianity is the False Gospel that Paul warned us of in the book of Galatians ch.1

6 months ago

bambi replied:

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The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses
Do not Believe in the trinity teaching
as it is Not a Biblical teaching...
not supported by Scripture.
I could sit for for hours,
giving Scripture of the validity of this.
But, I don't have the time for that today. Now.
But I can give some very good Scriptures from the Bible.
That does prove this out.

Matt 3:17~~
"...a voice came out of the heavens,
This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved."
God, in heaven, while Jesus was here on earth being Baptized.
No mention of them being 1 & the same person.

Jesus himself said that he had a prehuman existence,
that he was the unique Son of God,
that he was the Messiah,
the 1 coming whose coming was foretold
in the Hebrew Scriptures: Pr 8:30; Matt :15-17;
John 4:24,25~5:19~13:13~10:36-38,
14:10, 28~17:3~20:21;
Luke 24:44-48; Isa 9:6.
The trinity is a LIE.
Not a single 1 of these identify
the holy spirit as a seperate being,
an entity of itself.
Nor are we given a name for the holy spirit,
Jesus has a name.
Jehovah God has a name.

Christianity was filled w/ apostasy, yes.
The trinity being a part of it, yes.
Not all Christians accept this teaching.
Besides, Jehovah's Christian Witnesses,
Mormons, Unitarians and Muslims*.
all worship 1 God.
These 4 faiths are Monotheist.

*true while Muslims are not Christians,
they do worship only 1 God.

i reply: there are so many religions and not enough people who know the scriptures, generally most people believe what they are taught /told to beleive

ihavebtchface replied:

mormons believe that God is 1 God
Jesus is a second seperate God
and the holy spirit makes for God number 3
they commit the sin of idolotry
they worship 3 Gods
I worship 1 God in 3 personages

Just like I am Atia , mother, wife, and sister, that doesnt make me 3 seperate persons

6 months ago

i reply: if the trinity is true, than my definition of the godhead is a form of idolatry. i hope i find out i am either correct or false in any degree! before i die. so i can publicize the fact! right now, since before i was found to be a mormon, i was taught that the trinity to be untrue, from sources i do not know. from scripture study, i can prove the trinity and cite the same scriptures i was taught to believe taught this doctrine! but after growing up in the faith and self study and a few revelations, there seems to be only one authoritative Restored Gospel. the LDS have that claim and only Them! but in my lifetime i have seen the original doctrines of the lds church get changed and NEW doctrines of men change the old traditional teaching into something joseph smith might have argued revelation for the church to be true and correct. the history of the church then becomes a wind of doctrine. and i truly have been tossed to and fro with confusion from dilating teachings throughout the church(es).

Joshua 5:13-18

Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, Are you for us or for our enemies?
Neither, he replied, but as commander of the army of the LORD I have now come.Then Joshua fell facedown to the ground in reverence, and asked him, What message does my Lord have for his servant?

Joshua bows to an angel and is not rebuked, guess why?

When John bows to the angel Gabriel, he is rebuked, and the Angel says No, when Joshua bows before the angel that commands the lord's army, it is accepted why is that?

Because the Angel of the Lord is God, that's why when he bowed it is accepted

This is evidence for the trinity

John 10:30

Me and my Father are one

When Thomas the apostle see's the Mark's on Jesus hands, he replies

John 20:28 :

Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

Why did he say this Because Jesus is God

DO not let Joseph Smith and Charles Russell deceive you

they are Freemasons, and want to remove the deity from Christ, which is what the New World Order is all about

Why do you think your bible is called the NEW WORLD translation?

think about it

they are the flase prophets

Jesus is your Lord and God

He is God in the Flesh

who came to save us from our sin

do not deny him this

pinkadot replied: Mormon here - we believe in God the Father and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
We believe they are three separate beings, united in purpose. We believe Joseph Smith actually saw and spoke with God and Jesus Christ, he saw two personages, not "one".
I don't even really know the definition of the "Trinity"...if that is the belief that they are "three in one"...no we don't believe that. Only one in purpose and love, but not body or spirit.
I don't know what JW's believe.

TiBarbie - we don't believe in "three gods" we worship God the Father, our God, through His Son Jesus Christ. We do not consider the Holy Ghost a "god" but part of the godhead.
God the Father is Supreme, there are none above Him we worship or no others we worship. You are mistaken.

i reply: http://scriptures.lds.org/en/a_of_f/1

read the testimony of joseph smith jr. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1

iron serpent replied: There is true Christianity and false Christianity. False Christianity clings to pagan beliefs while true christianity steers clear of them. Not all Christians believe the Trinity so it would be wrong to disregard all Christian faiths just because some believe it.

quailmanreadytorumble replied: the mormon belief has already been covered.

JWs don't believe in the trinity, it's strict monotheism(they don't believe Jesus is God, but Michael the Archangel in human form)

i dont believe in the trinity, but i can show you in the bible it is! and is not

Why should i believe the trinity is true?

if it wasnt for the theology of the godhead, I might never have joined the LDS church. despite what christianity says is true what do mormons and jehova witnesses say?

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I dont believe the trinity is true.

ishvarlin replied:

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I personally am a Christian, one of Jehovah's Witnesses. As such I don't believe in the idea of the Trinity.
i was looking for some reasons to beleive or disbelieve

i reply secondly: i was looking for answers to try to convince me to believe, but i think ive heard them all anyway.

i reply: i dont believe in JW's either. the group might come to an agreement of what a bible verse means, but they are not allowed to disagree with the assigned leader who tell you what truth is.

God is the only one who reveals truth, and to whome God will reveal the truth as well, but most of the time they are killed or murdered or crucified.

hibby76 replied:um....clarify.

You're Mormon and you're asking what Mormons believe, yet that is the reason you converted??? I don't get it.

i reply: thats not an answer, but yes its true, and although i studied the church doctrine for more than a decade, i still find mormons that know more than i do because i was not born into the church. i also warn people about secret combination and politics! Every church and religion has this kind of good and evil working among its members. Every church has its wolf in sheeps clothing and witchcraft(s) and sorcery and priestcraft(s) are not an exception in this church or any other!

right on replied: First of all the word trinity comes from Tertullian in the second century. His idea was not how it is being interpreted by evangelicals of today.
The Nicene creed which explained it says One God made of One substance....
The difference with both Mormons and JW's is that the Bible is very clear that both Jesus claimed to be Yahweh equal and of the same essence as the God of the old testament.
This is the historical belief of the true churches in all of History. Even the Catholic church with all it's aberrations and additions holds the true historical believe that Jesus is both God and man.
You can research this by going on youtube and listening to Josh McDowell.
If you are really interested email me and I will send you an article I wrote on this subject with bible references.
There is no reason to use the word trinity or agree with the false concepts it gives people.

christianity doesnt KNOW the truth, they might think so, but they are wrong!

Is it possible that christianity doesnt know the truth?

i dont think it matters what church/sect you belong, if you believe in the trinity, i think everyone is incorrect in their theology.

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there be some that atrouble you, and would bpervert the cgospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

think about it! Already there were antichrists, and already there were corruptions in the religion.
can you honestly say to God the gospel has been preserved perfectly?

6 months ago

3 gospels
circumsision and uncircumsicion and Pauls gospel?

when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached...the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

and a 4th gospel, or dispensation as different as circumcision or non circumcision:
gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh

6 months ago

mark 13:32

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsRJznXGZbFVw7Pn0ar3UJPty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071005134510AAVTfi0

philo answered:

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"Christianity" is not a person, so it doesn't know anything, much less the truth.
But if you're asking whether it's possible that Christianity IS true, well yes, of course it's possible.
It doesn't follow that because *I* believe in the trinity, that therefore *everyone* is incorrect in their theology. Even if the trinity is false, not everybody believes it.
But if you mean to simply say that the trinity is false, then have a look at the link I'm providing. It's a blog, so you have to read from the bottom up.

6 months ago

allison replied: There's a possibility that atheists and CHristians alike are going to find out we're all wrong. We may all go the purple room in the sky when we die.

homicidal ideation

What is homocidal ideation?

much or most of the country is using the prescription drug Effexor (spelling unknown), and according to dr Ann blake tracy the manufacturer of this drug, last year, added this adverse reaction to its list of side effects. Isnt this so completely evil?
for more info see dr Blakes website: drugawareness.org

Karin replied:

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There are many, many, many seriously depressed people who have found that SSRI drugs like Effexor have been life-saving for them. For those who are suffering from serious depression, antidepressant drugs can be miraculous in giving them back their lives.

However, these drugs are very serious meds that have the potential for very serious side effects. They need to be prescribed by someone who is familiar with their effects, including side-effects, and the people who use them need to be closely monitored for effect. This means that you shouldn't just get a bottle full of them from the GP at your HMO, and just start taking them. Unfortunately these drugs are most often administered just this way: by GP's who have no advanced training in the treatment of mental illness, with no monitoring of the patient for side effects and effectivity, given to people who are ignorant about possible problems.

It is a mistake to try to tell people that ANY of these drugs are ALWAYS bad, just as it's a mistake to tell people that ANY of these drugs are ALWAYS safe and will help EVERYBODY. Used correctly, they save lives. Used incorrectly, they cause problems. Not used at all, and you consign some people to living in the hell of depression forever.

i reply: its not a mistake to say they are always bad! they are the same thing as if you had been drinking beer all night, or a a bottle of wine or taken pcp or lsd or taken cocaine. it is a drug addiction, it is a "spirit" made by the hands of men that cover-up an LIE that is formented worldwide.

take away the source and cause of depression and you will find a common healing in the land. All flesh and mental illness can be healed, without the oppression of poison(s).

JennP replied: "Homicidal Ideation" Rare In Drug Taken By Yates

July 10, 2006 9:45 a.m. EST

Mary K. Brunskill - All Headline News Staff Writer
Houston, TX (AHN) - Effexor, the commonly prescribed drug taken by Andrea Yates in the months before she drowned her five children in 2001, has recently added homicidal thoughts to its list of rare adverse effects. However, Wyeth, Effexor's manufacturer, says it doesn't believe the drug causes homicidal ideation.

Wyeth spokesman Gwen Fisher said that during a clinical trial to determine the efficacy of treating panic disorder with Effexor, one participant in the study reported having homicidal thoughts.

Lat year Wyeth added "homicidal ideation" as one of Effexor's rare adverse events, defined as something not proven to be caused by the drug. Fisher said Wyeth did not notify doctors or issue warning labels because they found no causal link between Effexor and homicidal thoughts.

Fisher said told the Associated Press, "We believe there is no causal link between Effexor and homicidal behavior. In our minds, we've taken every precaution."

Dr. Moira Dolan, executive director of the watchdog group Medical Accountability Network, said Wyeth should have done more to publicize the results of the clinical trial.

Dolan said she discovered the labeling change around two weeks ago while she was reading the FDA's MedWatch November newsletter.

Dolan told the Associated Press, "Families don't know to be aware of this possible effect."

Effexor was prescribed to Yates in varying doses after her first suicide attempt in 1999 and after her stay in a mental hospital in 2001. Her daily dose was increased to twice the recommended maximum dose shortly before the drownings, Dolan said.

Yates, 42, is currently in the second week or her retrial. Her 2001 capital murder conviction was overturned on appeal because jurors may have been influenced by some erroneous testimony. Yates is again pleading innocent by reason of insanity.

Yates' lead attorney, George Parnham, said that although Wyeth should have publicized information about the possible rare adverse event, it will not affect Yates' case.

Parnham said, "Obviously this is a severely mentally ill individual who was on a plethora of psychiatric meds. There's no question mental illness killed those children."

I hope this helps
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004168427

lisa1cares replied:have you ever really read what the side effects of some of the meds they give you. I mean sometimes they are worse then being ill in the first place. take my dad who has Parkinson's disease. he was given mirapex (sp?) and they did not mention the fact that this med was know to cause OCD like symptoms and people on it where gambling there lives way and losing everything they ever had like wives husbands. homes and there complete lives where trashed by this med. now there has been a big law suit and they tell us oh yes sorry it is one of the side effects after we have nothing left. its sick to think how much are the company's that are making this meds keeping from us ?????

i reply: though i KNOW many people have some basic healing with the drugs they have taken. i know that aspirin and other pain killers work, i know penicilian works! but when the entire country is diagnosed with mental illness, i also percieve that what mental illness IS, is not what psychology correctly diagnoses, nor that everyone should be prognosed with pharmecutical panacea. Reading the book by Dr Anne blake tracy and hearing her various interviews and going to her drugawareness.org website, teaches things that most people should know, and would have many doctors crucified if not all the pharmecutical companies altogether.

is the bible the only truth

Come On! The bible is NOT the only truth? how can people believe this?

too many christian follow blindly, in my opinion, thus fulfilling what jesus says about the blind following the blind, what happens to them? They fall in the ditch. of course Jesus was referring to sadducean and pharisitical leadership and was trying to correct truth and bringing people to repentance and faith.
Even the jews outlawed the prophecies of their own prophets, why would it be any different for christians and muslims and jews today?

igottadrive2000 replied:

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faith

1 year ago

i reply, not completely an abomination but lets compare other answers
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AvOeAK0GyCZ42VnUo_sCduHty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070331135844AAHNEYv

the bible is good enough for scripture, but it is not the complete source of truth, in my opinion. Faith can be true, but it can also be blind and full of lies.

Sun valley replied:The HOLY BIBLE is the only TRUTH out there. The HOLY BIBLE can show you the RIGHT WAY to ALMIGHTY GOD.

i reply: Totally and absoluty WRong! this is a brainwashed answer depicted from false indoctrination.

spencer replied: okay, follow evolution blindly. We both have the benefit of trusting in things unseen. Your question denies the nature of truth. If there is more than one truth than there is, in fact, no truth at all. Let's see, today is wednesday which means that murder is cool and Roseane reruns are awesome.

I reply: following the bible blindly from the leaders who are blind are also the same as people who scientists who claim objective observation without bias. the bible is not the complete word of truth nor is it the comple words of jesus or of God.

bibleprophecy group replied: God’s word is true from the beginning (Ps.119:160 below).

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Tim.3:16 below).

God is the God of truth (Ps.31:5, Deut.32:4, Ps.25:5, Jn.17:17 below).

The Holy Scriptures are not the private interpretation of men (2 Pe.1:20 below), but they are given by God through the Holy Spirit.

The spirit of Truth will guide you into all truth (Jn.16:13 below)

ALL Scripture is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Pe.1:21, 2 Tim.3:16, 2 Samuel 23:2, Eph.3:5 below).

If a religious author’s writings do not speak according to the Holy Bible, there is no light in them (Isa.8:20 below).

Ps.119.160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

2 Pe.1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

2 Pe.1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.

2 Tim.3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Samuel 23:2 The Spirit of the LORD spake by me (David), and his word [was] in my tongue.

Eph.3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

Ps.31:5 Into Thine hand I commit my spirit; Thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.

Deut. 32:4 He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His ways are judgment, a God of truth and without iniquity; just and right is He.

Ps.25:5 Lead me in Thy truth and teach me, for Thou art the God of my salvation; on Thee do I wait all the day.

Jn.17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

2 Tim.3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Jn.16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Isa.8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Pat (ndbpsa ©)

I reply to pat: i think your gift of prophecy is deluded if it limits truth to the bible only! interpretation is not give by false dreams or imagination is not of any private interpretation!

Rhsaunders replied:The bible is indeed not the only truth; much of it is not any kind of truth. It contains hundreds of errors.

W. H. Burr, Self-contradictions in the bible.
Mills, Atheist Universe

palavar replied: At no time did Jesus ever say that the Bible is the only truth. What He did in fact say is that, "*I* am the Way, the Truth..." God alone is Truth and all particular truths which are revealed by God to man, or are discovered by human intelligence, have their source in God.
I am forever asking people to read Aquinas on these matters; some day someone will heed the suggestion to their own greater profit.

I reply: i think i will read Aquinas. But God alone is not Truth, the Godhead has truth though.
God can stand alone albeit.

atheistic replied: Correction!
No "Holy" book is the TRUTH.

i reply: i agree in part, scriptures are given by inspiration, not necessarily God breathed in every detail, but it is instruction in rightoeusness which can lead to the truth and at the same time can lead mean to believe in false doctrine and false doctrines as well.

Beanie replied: But would you agree that is it the ultimate truth? All other 'truths' must be supported by Biblical views? God's views?

I reply: the bible is not Ultimate truth, there is the new testament and the old testament, there are prophets that never were published, there are letters published but not cannonized after constantine, there is the koran also and other historical manuscripts, NOTHING, has ultimate truth, except Jesus, the revelation of jesus and the Lord revealing God the Father. One vision proves many things true and many things false at the same time!!!

laptop jesus replied: It is the only truth just because you are too retarded to understand that doesn't change a thing.

i reply: truth is not bound, people who believe the bible is the only truth and authority is borderline idolaters. !!!

ebonita replied: I agree.

People who believe that The Bible is the only truth are guilty of limiting the greatness of their own God.

Do you think they'll burn in a hell of their own choosing?

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Heaven and earth Scroll sea of glass

s heaven and earth the same as the universe?

NO! i dont believe so!
heaven is translated in several definitions. God might exist above all the universe but the heaven of earth is not the same thing.

any scholarly contribution accepted.

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Rev. 6: 14
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
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Isa. 34: 4
4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
Rev. 15: 2;Rev. 21: 18, 21;
Rev. 4: 6
6 And before the throne there was a a
sea of glass like unto crystal:
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1 Q. What is the sea of glass spoken of by John, 4th chapter, and 6th verse of the Revelation?
A. It is the earth, in its sanctified, immortal, and eternal state.

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Rev Wright

Is Rev wright, correct?

when he says God D*** america!

there are so many Americans that worship satan or follow the ways of witchcraft and sorcery that they themselves are worse than terrorists!

first! is rev wright correct because the people of america need to be Punished
second am i correct in agreeing with him because americans need to be destroyed! because of their sodom and gomorah-like sins?!!! which is worse than any terrorist threat?

2 Thes. 2: 12

12 That they all might be ^adamned who ^bbelieved not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Can a man ever! forsake all sin?

im reading the bible it says yes and listening to preachers say no

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this link shows the verse in context from an online lds mormon website

The Church is the Church, with Peter as it's first leader!?

Lookupjames224 said this:

Okay, for those who have a problem with Matthew 16:18: "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church."

What would be the significance of changing Simon's name to Peter, meaning rock, if Peter in fact was not the "rock"?

Peter’s preeminent position among the apostles was symbolized at the very beginning of his relationship with Christ. At their first meeting, Christ told Simon that his name would thereafter be Peter, which translates as "Rock" (John 1:42). The startling thing was that—aside from the single time that Abraham is called a "rock" (Hebrew: Tsur; Aramaic: Kepha) in Isaiah 51:1-2—in the Old Testament only God was called a rock. The word rock was not used as a proper name in the ancient world. If you were to turn to a companion and say, "From now on your name is Asparagus," people would wonder: Why Asparagus? What is the meaning of it? What does it signify? Indeed, why call Simon the fisherman "Rock"? Christ was not given to meaningless gestures, and neither were the Jews as a whole when it came to names. Giving a new name meant that the status of the person was changed, as when Abram’s name was changed to Abraham (Gen.17:5), Jacob’s to Israel (Gen. 32:28), Eliakim’s to Joakim (2 Kgs. 23:34), or the names of the four Hebrew youths—Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah to Belteshazzar, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego (Dan. 1:6-7). But no Jew had ever been called "Rock." The Jews would give other names taken from nature, such as Deborah ("bee," Gen. 35:8), and Rachel ("ewe," Gen. 29:16), but never "Rock." In the New Testament James and John were nicknamed Boanerges, meaning "Sons of Thunder," by Christ, but that was never regularly used in place of their original names, and it certainly was not given as a new name. But in the case of Simon-bar-Jonah, his new name Kephas (Greek: Petros) definitely replaced the old.

So, who is the rock!! ?

Now take a closer look at the key verse: "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church" (Matt. 16:18). Disputes about this passage have always been related to the meaning of the term "rock." To whom, or to what, does it refer? Since Simon’s new name of Peter itself means rock, the sentence could be rewritten as: "You are Rock and upon this rock I will build my Church." The play on words seems obvious, but commentators wishing to avoid what follows from this—namely the establishment of the papacy—have suggested that the word rock could not refer to Peter but must refer to his profession of faith or to Christ.

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Look at an early Church father [[before the bible]]

Tatian the Syrian

"Simon Cephas answered and said, ‘You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.’ Jesus answered and said unto him, ‘Blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah: flesh and blood has not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say unto thee also, that you are Cephas, and on this rock will I build my Church; and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it" (The Diatesseron 23 [A.D. 170]).

I reply: what would be the point of jesus saying to Peter SATAN!

revelation and false inspiration are two things All men must face. also remember jesus said to Peter tonight you will deny me 3x.

Matt. 16: 23;Mark 8: 33;Acts 5: 3

i believe Jesus rewarded Peter with the name of Rock to signify that Peter Got it right, why ? because of revelation.

but we all know from outher scripture the disciples didnt have it correct even until after the resurrection happened. They argured over circumcision they argued over other things.

but PETER was NOT the first Elder. James was in charge of the church in Jerusalem. Peter only goes back to the history of the church in Rome. NOT in jerusalem.

VotAnarx replied: Stop fooling yourself. The Rock is Jesus Christ, and Peter was no pope.

Matt. 16:18, JB: “I now say to you: You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church. And the gates of the underworld can never hold out against it.” (Notice in the context [vss. 13, 20] that the discussion centers on the identity of Jesus.)

Whom did the apostles Peter and Paul understand to be the “rock,” the “cornerstone”?

Acts 4:8-11, JB: “Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, addressed them, ‘Rulers of the people, and elders! . . . it was by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, the one you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by this name and by no other that this man is able to stand up perfectly healthy, here in your presence, today. This is the stone rejected by you the builders, but which has proved to be the keystone [“cornerstone,” NAB].’”

1 Pet. 2:4-8, JB: “Set yourselves close to him [the Lord Jesus Christ] so that you too . . . may be living stones making a spiritual house. As scripture says: See how I lay in Zion a precious cornerstone that I have chosen and the man who rests his trust on it will not be disappointed. That means that for you who are believers, it is precious; but for unbelievers, the stone rejected by the builders has proved to be the keystone, a stone to stumble over, a rock to bring men down.”

Eph. 2:20, JB: “You are part of a building that has the apostles and prophets for its foundations, and Christ Jesus himself for its main cornerstone.”

What was the belief of Augustine (who was viewed as a saint by the Catholic Church)?

“In this same period of my priesthood, I also wrote a book against a letter of Donatus . . . In a passage in this book, I said about the Apostle Peter: ‘On him as on a rock the Church was built.’ . . . But I know that very frequently at a later time, I so explained what the Lord said: ‘Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church,’ that it be understood as built upon Him whom Peter confessed saying: ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God,’ and so Peter, called after this rock, represented the person of the Church which is built upon this rock, and has received ‘the keys of the kingdom of heaven.’ For, ‘Thou art Peter’ and not ‘Thou art the rock’ was said to him. But ‘the rock was Christ,’ in confessing whom as also the whole Church confesses, Simon was called Peter.”—The Fathers of the Church—Saint Augustine, the Retractations (Washington, D.C.; 1968), translated by Mary I. Bogan, Book I, p. 90.

Did the other apostles view Peter as having primacy among them?

Luke 22:24-26, JB: “A dispute arose also between them [the apostles] about which should be reckoned the greatest, but he said to them, ‘Among pagans it is the kings who lord it over them, and those who have authority over them are given the title Benefactor. This must not happen with you.’” (If Peter were the “rock,” would there have been any question as to which one of them “should be reckoned the greatest”?)

Since Jesus Christ, the head of the congregation, is alive, does he need successors?

Heb. 7:23-25, JB: “Then there used to be a great number of those other priests [in Israel], because death put an end to each one of them; but this one [Jesus Christ], because he remains for ever, can never lose his priesthood. It follows, then, that his power to save is utterly certain, since he is living for ever to intercede for all who come to God through him.”

Rom. 6:9, JB: “Christ, as we know, having been raised from the dead will never die again.”

Eph. 5:23, JB: “Christ is head of the Church.”

Was Peter in Rome?

Rome is referred to in nine verses of the Holy Scriptures; none of these say that Peter was there. First Peter 5:13 shows that he was in Babylon. Was this a cryptic reference to Rome? His being in Babylon was consistent with his assignment to preach to the Jews (as indicated at Galatians 2:9), since there was a large Jewish population in Babylon. The Encyclopaedia Judaica (Jerusalem, 1971, Vol. 15, col. 755), when discussing production of the Babylonian Talmud, refers to Judaism’s “great academies of Babylon” during the Common Era.

Has an unbroken line of successors been traced from Peter to modern-day popes?

Jesuit John McKenzie, when professor of theology at Notre Dame, wrote: “Historical evidence does not exist for the entire chain of succession of church authority.”—The Roman Catholic Church (New York, 1969), p. 4.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “ . . . the scarcity of documents leaves much that is obscure about the early development of the episcopate . . . ”—(1967), Vol. I, p. 696.

i reply: is any of this true!

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