Thursday, July 31, 2008

LDS falism asked:
Liberals have the crappiest foundation in the world
It took me a day to convert to conservatism. I was a liberal all my life and i didn't even realise it. And i have never seen a liberal win a debate. Why do you think that is?

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Ya, that's why they created a 2 party system.... Go figure.

37 minutes ago
Ya, i just got another $7,500 from the government for no reason. Thanks liberals. I love socialism in America.... Everyone looses.

37 minutes ago
Ya, i just got another $7,500 from the government for no reason. Thanks liberals. I love socialism in America.... Everyone looses.

i replied:
There is one thing in the bible that says God is LIberal
He giveth to all liberally, to those that ask of him.

i never could find the verse again

God can give liberally because He has all the ability to give. while he doesnt have more money than some, he owns our very souls. and at the same time He is conservative with his energy and with how much he gives.

the question of liberalism verses conservatism is a strawhat argument, it is used to divide and cause hate.
a true ecomony exists with communism, socialism and capital, through righteous dominion and correct management and principles of righteousness
the kingdom of God excercises all economic platforms and from the listed scriptures below, one must be corrected and change his beliefs.

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JS-H 1: 11, 13
11 While I was laboring under the extreme difficulties caused by the contests of these parties of religionists, I was one day reading the Epistle of James, first chapter and fifth verse, which reads: If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
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Deut. 15: 14
14 Thou shalt furnish him liberally out of thy flock, and out of thy floor, and out of thy winepress: of that wherewith the Lord thy God hath blessed thee thou shalt give unto him.

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James 1: 5
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
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2 Ne. 4: 35
35 Yea, I know that God will give liberally to him that asketh. Yea, my God will give me, if I bask not amiss; therefore I will lift up my voice unto thee; yea, I will cry unto thee, my God, the rock of my righteousness. Behold, my voice shall forever ascend up unto thee, my rock and mine everlasting God. Amen.
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D&C 46: 7
7 But ye are commanded in all things to ask of God, who giveth liberally; and that which the Spirit testifies unto you even so I would that ye should do in all holiness of heart, walking uprightly before me, considering the end of your salvation, doing all things with prayer and thanksgiving, that ye may not be seduced by evil spirits, or doctrines of devils, or the commandments of men; for some are of men, and others of devils.

others replied:
no one important said:Too bad the USA was founded by liberals

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forgetwarbuymore said:
Your sphere of influence and exposure to the world must be rather small.

Edit: They actually didn't create the two party system with the Constitution. Washington didn't have a party affiliation and warned against it.

icomment: i agree thats what ive been taught too

Katie replied: If you were able to be convinced in 1 day, I'd say you didn't have very strong convictions. If you've never seen a conservative lose a debate, I'd say you haven't seen very many of them.
jek replied:conservatism is the early stages of fascism

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i comment: is it really. or is facism just a military industrial complex way of saying we have money we can afford our our police force? Facism exist in all world powers regardless of philosophy or economic jurisdiction

tribeca said: Liberals look ahead to the unproven. That is how society progresses. Conservatives argue from the basis of maintaining the status quo. To some people that is always more appealing, Unfortunately, it results in societies becoming stagnant and sometimes even dying.

philipk said this: USA was founded to get rid of Liberalism. The all men are created equal thing really annoys Liberals. (Affirmativee Action proves that).

i comment: i dont believe the american founders wanted to get rid of liberalism, they wanted to get rid of oppression and be Free and to have the righte of liberty. it is my opinion that liberals often vote for individual rights despite the majority vote. im thinking of gay rights and handicapped

but at the same time a person who is oppressed is a positive proof there is no liberty or freedom.

ducky said this: The Foundation of the United States of America was created by Liberals.
Most all of them liberals and traitors to the conservative crown of England.

you didn't watch the Bill Clinton debates ?
you know that he won them and became President twice don't you ?

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i comment: ducky there is no proof that clinton won the majority vote. as corrupt as He is (allegedly) there is now way to discern if all votes were manipulated. voter fraud

yep i said it said: Well I must admit that it took me a bit longer.....I became a conservative when I grew up and put away my selfish, "everybody owes me something" lazy attitude. It also helped when I got a job, started paying taxes, graduated from college and started raising a family! Besides that....REASON dictates that liberalism is completely flawed!

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If you're not a Liberal by the time you're 20 you have no heart; if you're not a Conservative by the time you're 40 you have no brain.
Sir Winston Churchill

i comment: I disagree. read the scriptures God is liberally and he is most definitely older than 40. but he concserves his gifts to those that can properly maintain them, alittle here a little there! and more so if they prove worthy and EVEN UNTO THE POINT where he gives EVERYTHING that a person asks because sometimes people only ask for those things that are righteous

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3 Ne. 14: 7, 9-11
7 aAsk, and it shall be given unto you; bseek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
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9 Or what man is there of you, who, if his son ask bread, will give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father who is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

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1 Ne. 15: 11
11 Do ye not remember the things which the Lord hath said?—If ye will not harden your hearts, and aask me in bfaith, believing that ye shall receive, with diligence in keeping my commandments, surely these things shall be made known unto you.

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3 Ne. 18: 20
20 And awhatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, which is right, believing that ye shall receive, behold it shall be given unto you.

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Moro. 7: 26
26 And after that he came men also were asaved by faith in his name; and by faith, they become the bsons of God. And as surely as Christ liveth he spake these words unto our fathers, saying: cWhatsoever thing ye shall ask the Father in my name, which is good, in faith believing that ye shall receive, behold, it shall be done unto you.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008

john ch 6:65,66

60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus aknew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this boffend you?
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66 ¶ From that time many of his adisciples went back, and bwalked no more with him.

from these verses i have concluded it is possible for the majority of people to choose the wrong, not to mention to forget that sodom and gomorah were whole cities of people that chose the wrong and died because of the wages of sin.

it is possible For Jesus to Teach Direct truth and men to be blinded by false beliefs in weighing what is truth and correct and believe it to be wrong. in this example they said it was too hard

Later Jesus taught men will turn from sound doctrine and follow fables.

can anyone say LION KING. ?
1 Tim. 1: 4
4 Neither give heed to afables and endless genealogies, which bminister cquestions, rather than godly dedifying which is in faith: so do

  1. 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the atruth, and shall be turned unto bfables.
  1. 16 For we have not followed cunningly devised afables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were beyewitnesses of his majesty.

  1. 3 For the time will come when they will not aendure sound bdoctrine; but after their own clusts shall they heap to themselves dteachers, having itching ears;

Saturday, July 26, 2008

what are the causes of mental illness besides religion

this is one question I hate the most!
people of higher education think they know the truth of what is mental illness because they are taught to believe in a book.

the most fundament flaw in all psychology is the Non existence of God.
mental illnes has more than ONE source and psychology will not even admit that demonism and fallen angels can be ONE cause. that poisons and prescription and illegal drugs are a very major source of all the others mental illness. in my opinion.
those that practice making poisons are the first to deny it ! always.
because they are criminals

religious beliefs are not mental illness. NO.

sugar imbalance can be. stimulants can cause it too. Coffee or cafeine can cause memory loss. too much pcp can cause rage. lsd can cause paranoia.
the techniques of black magic have been testified that such practices can cause a mind to fracture some have even said that split personalities in mind control techniques are the desired results and sleep deprivation can cause mental illness as well.

is the book of mormon perfectly true or perfectly translated

after 20 years of studying the church doctrine i came across a few verses that i know are not true. i asked this question on yahooQA and i got the answer that the bom has a disclaimer, it is only translated correctly as far as men can do it. if there are errors it is the fault of humans! which verified for me that the book of mormon is not perfect either.
after a while i began to understand that men who were inspired by God wrote the things they believed were true according to traditions and history as well as according to the miracles and words of God. but the power of translation still came from God according to joseph smith testimony. but what was preserved was also the contentions of doctrines and the proof that people who called thmselves righteous were NOT righteous in deed. so the book of mormon preserves some things that are not true. as well as a Majority of everything else truth. let God reproove me or let him prove this is true.

Friday, July 25, 2008

what do you do when your child professes to be molested

there are so many possibilities,

pray to god,
forgiveness is an optimum factor no matter what.

i was molested at age 4 i was terrorized for 2 weeks. I was later again molested at age 8 and again at age ten.
I was drugged and raped at a college dorm party where my beer was drugged and i lost conscience after only a couple of sips
i woke up sometime 5 or 6 hours later and was driven home from an empty dorm room I had nighmares for 3 days

Anyway, Confrontation with the daughters father is the first act of righteousnes, bring the deeds done in darkness into the light.
the minister should react in a righteous manner, specifically bring the child to your attention and ask about the accusation.

you must have witnessess

a young child can be taught to repent and be proven to forsake this evil. if nothing works make a police report of sexual offense so that it is documented.

habitual offenders are taken out of society
repentant believers are forgiven.

but there might also be an underlying cause of her actions. such as being a victim herself. She might also be a victim of rape and sexual abuse, in fact i would say the probability is close to 100%

also council your own daughter. this world is evil beyond just a little molestation. people are killed for similar crimes.

you can ignore everything and do nothing, hoping that prayer alone will move the spirit of God and hope the other girl will repent with more maturity.

i am still plagued by dreams and the offenses of others, even though my beliefs are centered on perfect repentance.

Thursday, July 24, 2008

another 2 yahoo violations and a 3rd

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How many people can find a hundred question that violate terms of service just by sitting down and looking?

i know i can! ive seen a few already just today. and yet they are not called violations. im pretty sure there are a thousand violations that are NOT answers as well.
do any of you think there is an accute violation and bias against me from yahoo staff? oh wait, most of you dont see my violations.
most of them are called NOT a question Nor an answer.

but the unrighteous among us dont care if their account is deleted for having too many errors. I do care! and every violation is a bias against me, in my experience. i believe yahoo staff must have violation errors on their staff.

how many people of faith in the R&S section agree with me.?

i think the balance of faith should determine who gets a violation not the balance of reported blasphemers. people of unfaith should not be able to make decisions on faith based questions NOR should catholic or protestant beliefs be moderators of other faiths. but especially athiests should not say what a religous question truly is or what it isnot.

Even this question was deleted within 5 min
Date: Fri 25 Jul 2008 12:07:36 AM EDT
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Hi witnessofJesus,

The question you asked on Yahoo! Answers was reported by the Answers community:

"How many people can find a hundred question that violate terms of service just by sitting down and looking?"

This question has been removed. You may not have realized this, but all questions submitted on Yahoo! Answers must comply with the Answers Community Guidelines.

If you believe that your question does not violate the Answers Community Guidelines, and would like to appeal the removal of your question, you can have your case reviewed by Answers Customer Care. You have 7 days to submit your appeal.

Appeal this decision:

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appealing a violation doesnt work especially if you have the wrong management in charge of a religious section especially if the yahoo servant is an athiest and the manager is an athiest

but badwargoodwar emailed me and said:

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Hello witnessofJesus (airwarmingiceage),

You have received a message from another user!

From: Bad War/Good War.

Subject: violations

Message: most of the people on here are actually hate speechers. Don't tell them that or they will violate you. Do you understand this now?
Just punch violation for the worst of them, for people that continually do it. This weeds out, at least the worst of them. I have complained to yahoo over and over again, but they don't do anything.

To continue the conversation, click this link:


i just received the third violation for asking that question.
but i had an account for 7 years that they deleted. my groups were deleted too. all my personal testimonies too.
its not the report violation button, its yahoo staff that wont even reconsider. its people on the staff that are anti christian.

but thanks badwargoodwar :) i feel heavily persecuted for asking appropriate questions and giving reasonable researched answers and yet the questions are called non question and answers non answers.

lottalouasked about hearing voice

As a spiritual or religious person, do you hear voices in your head?



I reply:
as a spiritual person, one would believe in the realism of God or angels being able to speak with an audible voice

i have dreams and visions.
Seeing that God is real, I have seen Jesus within 6 feet of me. and i have heard him speak. there is also telepathy

so please dont confuse religion with crazy people because they "hear voices" hearing voices might also be a legitimate ability if one was Psychic or a telepath or as star trek called it beta-zoid.
seeing that Jesus is a real person, and religious people beleive that the Holy Ghost can give gifts of prophecy, prophecy by its very nature has an element of hearing the voice of God and the voices of angels and communicating with the living who have passed on. the corruption of this gift is given through sorceries and drugs and fallen angels and spirits that rebel against the ways of God and humans that practice all of the same.

If you read Nick Begichs' book you will find that there is a device called the "word of god". which makes people hear voices and on the other hand there are advertisements that can cause people to hear words in a particular radius. where outside the radius a person is restricted through electronic engineering that they cannot hear the same. i think they have this in japan. from soda dispensers

women in the priest are like active Gay men calling themselves ordained

hanging in there asked this:

LDS. Besides being born male, what do priests do differently than females to "earn" priesthood titles?
Having another priest do "laying on of the hands" is what the other priest does, not person receiving the priesthood. I am researching the mormon religion and different view points help alot. So, If this question is interesting enough to share with a star, please do.


12 minutes ago
{BigSigh} Yep!! I did it again..thanks Gumby.And to make matters even worse, had I stopped to think about it, I ALREADY knew the priests were called. Thanks for your patience and DOUBLE thanks for knowing me and responding anways!!
OK, lets change word " earn" to "qualify for". I think that works a little better. Tonya's answer is awesome and besides applying a little mind reading, it seems to logically make sense.It also is very close to my own understanding up to this point,but my understanding got rattled when I learned that newly baptised, adult, male members were ordained as priests almost IMMEDIATLY.That kind of kicks my assumption and her explanation to the curb and is part of reason I have asked this question.As a non member looking at this, it seems that the only true requirement for becoming a priest is gender, and that dosent seem right. There has to be more to it. Example:Twelve year old twins,one female,one male,both BORN Mormon.He is priest, she is not, whats difference

I saw this answer:
from amnesty sucks:we don't "earn priesthood titles."


life-long LDS


i reply: yes LDS women do earn priesthood titles,

They share the priesthood through the New and everlasting covenant in the marriage to their husband

but generally, lds women are not ordained to priesthood offices they are by creation called to Motherhood and to care for their families. thats the way it has been since adam and eve.

personally if a there is an ordained woman or gay priest opening a benediction in public I will refuse to pray with THEM in public. if a sister in church prays, i will join them.
One day that might change but for now it is church doctrine and it is bibilical in one sense


Then i edited it: yes LDS women are not given priesthood titles,, some have callings to teach, otheres are visiting teachers and go to homes of members and others are sent on missions to teach. Priesthood authority is given through the man, and must remain that WAY till the end of time or until God changes it in the next life.

They share the priesthood through the New and everlasting covenant in the marriage to their husband

but generally, lds women are not ordained to priesthood offices they are by creation called to Motherhood and to care for their families. thats the way it has been since adam and eve.

4 things God cannot do asked by adelai

Can we ask the question what God cannot do!?

God can do ALL things except 4 which are:
#1. He cannot sin
#2 He cannot learn
#3 He cannot make you love Him
#4 He cannot change.

this statement was made by Aiedalai

are all 4 of these sayings true? God can sin if he wants but wont choose to
but it is written that Jesus Learned by the things he suffered.
do you agree with this statement and think it is absolute truth?
Heb. 5: 8
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Saturday, July 19, 2008

the judgment of the most evil

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Matt. 8: 12
12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth

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Matt. 25: 30
30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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Alma 40: 13
13 And then shall it come to pass, that the aspirits of the wicked, yea, who are evil—for behold, they have no part nor portion of the Spirit of the Lord; for behold, they chose evil works rather than good; therefore the spirit of the bdevil did enter into them, and take possession of their house—and these shall be cast out into outer cdarkness; there shall be dweeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth, and this because of their own iniquity, being led captive by the will of the devil.
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D&C 133: 73
73 These shall go away into outer darkness, where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth.

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Rev. 20: 13-14
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And adeath and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

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John 17: 12
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.


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as for your statement about pervs, the whole world is become like the cities of sodom and gomorah and tyee.
and the words of the daughter of Lot were, We can raise up righteous seed. from that example Even in their criminal act the eldest daughter thought she was righteous, which was a self deception.
this is what the bible says of us today! the book of revelation says that men will call themselves "worthy" and are Not!

after 20 years of preaching and testifying and sharing my witness. i only see the same thing. WE are right They are all wrong.

but God bless the Man that is not like sodom and gomorah. and give them strenght to endure till the end.

Wednesday, July 16, 2008

who are swine?





Ok who are true swine among athiests that I should not share my pearls with?

the bible says dont cast pearls before swine!
but who are truly swine? who are truly wolves.

I was a swine to someone once and i was rjected from receiving the gospel at their mouth. Oh wait? maybe such a person was just as much a swine pretending to be a lamb of god?

is this whole religion section breaking the commandment and throwing pearls to swine?
or are people in bars and dens of thieves the places where jesus went in search of lost sheep? the lord knows salvation happens 1 in every city, here and there?
Such philosophies and questions. I have asked this question for at leat 10 or 15 years.
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I think an honest answer to this question might include that EVERYONE other than the sons of perdition are NOT swine.
That meant to me that I could preach and teach almost everyone and the odds would be that i would share pearls with almost everyone is a lamb of God.

I was indeed a swine, i was not born a saint. I grew up with strength and freedom like a prince in my mothers house despite her confession of atheism to me when i was about 18. remembering that i found Uija board in her closet tells me I dont a good deal many thing about her secrets and things done in darkness. but she was my mother anyway and i loved her enough to be with her.

anyway I was not born a jew, so i am an outcast as a gentile in the jewish tradition. even when i sought to become a jew I judged to be non acceptable and rejected. so i am a swine to jews. being american, in some muslim circles i am an infidel even though I have never known a woman except one time before i came to be a believer back in 1980.

i was a liar and a thief at age 4 and 10 and a fornicator at age 15or 16. when i read in the bible the commandment to Flee fornication and not be numbered with them i actually argued with God in my prayers because i knew it was so Great a pleasure. but when I remember humbling myself to the commandment, sincerely, and with full faith i was blessed yet again. and when i asked to be blessed with the baptism of hte holy spirit and beheld what i think was an angel of God, i knew i had been blessed again. i never believed it was satan appearing as an angel of light. I know I was not perfect in all knowledge but i veiwed myself as "scum" by the time i was 18. i had forsaken my religious beliefs from the bible and gone after my freinds in ways I regretted. but even still when i knew i was scum I prayed for forgiveness and sought blessings that would enable me to live a righteous life and i asked to know which church to join. when the spirit of God came to me. in my unworthiness. but i received a few visions and communicated with the spirit Unseen to me. i was baptized later in the Lds church because of the teachings that agreed with what i was taught. but mostly because I believed joseph smiths testimony.

I felt alive and steadfastly sure I would never backslide again. because in my experience with the church, the church was a greater family to me than my own mother and brother and dad. I gelt somewhat worthy for years but not asmuch worthy to be an elder. When i did become an elder all evil societies Preyed on my soul for years. but despite my worthiness i soon found myself not as worthy as i had believed. And then the church seemed to turn against me as well. and i began seeing the wolves among the sheep. I had to deal with neighbors that were wolves, and when wolves came into the church they seemed to turn the leaders against me as well. seemingly.
it became to me Less evil not to go to church anymore. i endured sleep deprivation for at least 15 years. and the last 3 years i slept only ten minutes every 3 days and maybe 1 full day a month.
I have believed in the authority of the priesthood up until about 2001. i acted to call down the judgment of God against the wickedness of this nation. in a desperate attempt to rid myself of these wicked people who were causing the sleep deprivation. believe me. I know what 15 years of terror torture and oppresion teach the mind. i know what death threats do. when the world trade center was dive bombed, I didnt see a terrorist threat. I saw the retaliation against the evil I had called down with priesthood authority. I also saw the hand of God withhold his protection from this nation which is promised in the book of mormon and doctrine and covenants . i saw other preachers agreeing with what i believed at the time.
but the most surprising thing I noticed. While most people seemed to be in a state of terror and shock. I slept peacefully for the first time in years.

i am agains sleep deprived by conspirators. they relentlessly torture me with poisons. I maybe unworthy, but the terror continues. and im pretty sure its not of God.
unrighteous dominion had among the saints that follow the same paths as babylon are also part of this evil conspiracy. I am not blessed with antideprresants, i am sleep deprived. I am not comforted antipsychotics, i am caused to be depressed. what i have been told is that this is a biological mental condition but ihave also been told it is chemical. Men believe what they are taught. I am not. these things are secret combinations, the very things the bible and bom warn us about. and some of the saint are actively part of these things.

unrighteous dominion Beckers

Sarah asked this:

What do Mormons have to say about Martha Beck's book ' leaving the saints'?

Its about how martha and her husband john beck escaped from the Mormon faith and fled salt lake city. when they started questioning the beliefs of the mormon church they both were sacked from their positions at Brigham young university in utah and then received death threats .

as a former muslim i feel that mormonism is no better than islam when it comes to threatening people .

Now mormons here got some serious explaining to do right?


I reply:

i wont apologize for unrighteous dominion.
it is condemnation for wolves that enter the flocks unaware.

as for me! to reprove the Becks testimony, it was because of my pure faith in the doctrines of the church that I gained a true testimony of jesus christ.
I have seen several prophets in visions and experienced their lives as I saw it.
its sorta like the dead zone for me at times.

anyway, wolves entered the early christian church and led people astray.
the church itself has doctrines that WARN of secret combinations. I am totally convinced that witchcrafts and sorceries are used by Good believing saints but follow the leaders of gadianton type secret societies.
joseph smith himself rebuked the danites publicly in their day.

while i was in SLC the entire Area was filled with satanic Oppression, the only place i had peace was in the visitors center of the church.

i was also covered by the HOLY Ghost while i slept in my van in an unknown church property parking lot.

I have testimonies by the hundreds that prove Mormon doctrine.
I have likewise studied the church doctrine my entire life and there are few false teaching creaping in unaware and there were political beliefs of the prophet that may or may not be true and he had personal teachings that are not the words of God, just as surely as the bible is NOT every word for word the SPOKEN word of God. the bible is NOT jesus.

however I dont speak any evil of joseph smith jr I dont see but a few questionable things in history but those are not doctrine in nature.
i am a witness of jesus, i know there is a God.

what church do i join Sherry asked, comments added





Sherry asked this question:


I was raised christian but not any more. dont know what od about my childs religion.?

I am pregnant and ive been thinking about how my parents raised me christian and how am i going to raise my child.
When i was growing up i would prey everynight with my dad next to me and i went to sunday school till i was about 11 and then around 15 i started study and learning about other religions and relized that christian is just what my parents raised me to believe in, but i learned by my self that i dont believe in that, i just went along with what my parents did. i did believe it until i started seeing things in a different view point.
so now im trying to decide if i should raise my child they way my parents did. i was a very happy child but i would be teaching my child somthing that me and my fiance do not believe in is that wrong?
should i raise him/her with the beliefs i have or should i just keep it christian
i know alot of you are going to say what you think of your religiions and how they are the best or w/e im just curius if i shoud raise mychild with what i think


i replied:



i dont know about boycotting all religion(s). that is is wrong and undeniably unrighteous.

i havent been to church in about 5 yrs.

but i was forced out of church because of witchcrafts and sorceries. it didnt matter which church i joined. whether it was baptist or Lds or presybyterian or lutheran. i finally came to the conclusion that it was much better and less evil NOT to go to church. I imagined at one point that i may have been disfellowshipped or excommunicated, but if it was SO! it was done UNrighteouslly because i never gave a defense on my behalf. i beleived i was a pious man of faith and righteousness though i made a few minor mistakes.

ANYWAY. i do know there is a God in heaven, my testimony is always i am a witness of jesus christ. i made the covenant and i prayed and fasted, and i was given the righteous desire of my heart. The only 2 greatest pleasures in life is SEX and Seeing Jesus. Sex is second place.

dont give up on christianity at the very last resort, it is a greater Mistake to forsake God and righteousness and the only begotten son.

and do NOT raise you Son to be completely biased against christianity. in my opinion. the correct authority is the best church. but they all Claim un-apostatized authority. whether it is greek orthodox or Russian orthadox or catholic or LDS or baptist. The truth is wrapped up in all of these. but so are untruths... "in all of these".

The greatest truth i know: is that there is a God. dont give up faith... i have never lost faith but there are powers that be in this world and all around us that wear down anyone's faith. Look at job.


addendum:
I spent my whole life studying and bearing my testimony. as much as i could, i made a vow of poverty when i was about 9 or 10 because i saw it on tv in the 70's. i was not born a saint but i was baptized and thought i could become a saint. the balance of my life is to bejudged by God, not by man. but one thing i do not lie about Nor am i deceived or beguiled, seems to be the vision of the sun of righteousness. There are greater visions than this! but i realize i never achieved the status of sanctification to get justified to receive such visions. i have been threatened terrorized, hunted, stalked, tortured, beguiled on many levels. The ONE great thing I ever experienced was the presence of Jesus in an ObE. I believed I studied the scriptures honestly and taught everything openly. I know i didnt understand all things as i taught them but i did know various perspectives of doctrines and i thought i chose the Right correct principles as i grew older.

I never Sinned any great sin after I gave my life to christ. I tried very faithfully to keep myself. but as joseph smith describes foibles in life i am also impacted of them. there were a few sins that might be sins unto death but i dont know. i had repented of them so perfectly that i had forgotten that i had ever done them. and when i did remember them, i stopped having faith in myself and stopped being active in the public. the internet is all i have at this point.

i lived in my car for 2 years because of the oppression of satanism and because of this i quit my one good job.
what i saw is like the painting of jesus

is this a false vision or one of many of various kinds? george carlin

toast images can be painted with margarin before they are cooked
so the answer is NO, MOST probably.

I think George Carlin was a great comedian in my teenage years. I saw him for the first time on saturday night live where he was Noticeably very anti religious. just a couple weeks ago.

the same show made a farce about shaving with a blade and a 3x blade. i have a clip but the joke mocked industry about hyping a better razor with better blade. BTW this year I bought a 3x blade for the first time and the difference is spetacular. The hype of SNL was wrong!

why the point. George carlin mocked religion and God, in the false sense of the words of modern christianity. Not everything hyped on SnL is correct. Especially any AntiChrist mockery.

Anyway. i beheld a man, in a vision, and i saw a man that looked like george carlin but he was clothed in a white beard. it was almost like a beard of righteousness.

the fact that i saw it is of NO Doubt, the message and interpretation is. but the first principle of truth hinges on the most obvious. Another interpretation is: if George can obtain a status which seemed to be esteemed. i think Most of US can.
BTW i am a man of visions. I have seen images of prophets. at least a few anyway. i have seen them LOOKING at me, even as i was looking at them.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080716001141AALjczc&r=w&pa=FZptHWf.BGRX3OFPgDJXUEFhOH_NZ9Z3nlu.cigilOSnm7.NKg--&paid=answered#A4FOPkDFKHXU1Io2BSaP


for my freinds: i think i have seen Pres Hinkley of the LDS church, in a day of Highest self unworthiness. I saw one biblical prophet who might have been isaiah or ezekiel. and i think i have seen at least 2 bom prophets.
there is also a different phenomenon which ihave found myself experiencing. on many occasions since i was a child ihave seemed to LIVE other peoples lives. Especially that last minute or two of their death. NOT just SEEING their lives but becoming the person as they are dying.
I have also witnessed what seems like Other peoples lives on what seems like other worlds. I think i have also experienced other peoples lives in various parts of this country as well. LIKE walking in New York when ive never been there. or changing places with at least ONE person in my own city and visiting my own work place and trying to explain to people i work with who i am. ive even had experiences like time travel. NONE of it is fun! but where can i get proof, if angels dont talk plainly and Jesus doesnt appear as aman invited to dinner!

Is any of this REAL. is anyone of these things a false VAST IMAGINATION?

Tuesday, July 15, 2008

what about chad hardings excommunication

Some people are made Examples Some people are forgiven and their sins are covered with love and forgiveness. after all it says Love covers a multitude of sins

Once excommunicated, a person can still attend services but is removed from official church rolls, prohibited from receiving the sacrament, entering church temples and performing church callings such as teaching or preaching during meetings. Quote

i remember reading the miracle of forgiveness and for first time reading what spencer kimbal said about men going topless. i was shocked. i dont remember the exact quote but i do know it was prohibited. I also never go topless. in fact for many years i wouldnt wear anything but turtle-necks and I havent gone to a public pool or a swimming hole anywhwere since 1980's. but thats my personal choice.

there are many things that one can condemn.

according to the bible the definition of being naked is halfway up the thigh and over the shoulder.
i went to a relief society meeting and found the sisters teaching their daughters how to make "one" piece swimming suits. there is no difference in nakedness even if a girl wears a one piece suit. and im pretty sure young lds men wear no shirts in P. E classes or Gym. and they wear nothing at all in public but short swim trunks.

this debate has been going on since before the 1920's.

also remember that Nakedness was not a sin in the garden of Eden and God did NOT lust after their nakedness.


other notes:
if an elder wears his garments anything less than that is nakedness
but at the same time an elder can remove his garments for sports activities, at least according to one source.
the elders of ancient israel also practiced "looking at naked girls to confirm their virginity"
when men go topless, it has often been a greater symptom of homosexuality.
i think excommunication was too harsh, but than again I have said adulterers should not be given the office of elder in the priesthood. but that can be wrong too. Joseph smith forgave greater sins than these before he excommunicated men. and women in relief society should reconsider their positions on wearing swimsuits
if its ok to go topless for lds males at beaches and playing in sports without a shirt or to take public showers than a world wide decree should be made that reproves all its members. not just excommunicate one member.
of course chad is described as being 6th generation Lds.
and he did make profit from an unchaste naked photo calendar. the church might be looking at how he keeps the money or not or how he recalls all the calendars.

i received 3 thumbs down so far i wonder if it was because of a homosexual or because of uneducated lds or just flat out antimormon



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2301139/Mormon-beefcake-calendar-creator-excommunicated.html


The creator of a calendar featuring pictures of bare-chested Mormon missionaries has been excommunicated after a disciplinary meeting with local church leaders in Las Vegas.



Chad Hardy, 31, said he accepted the decision and had "no ill feelings" towards the council of elders from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

"I felt like I spoke my truth," the Las Vegas-based life-long Mormon said. "Bottom line, they still felt the calendar is inappropriate and not the image that the church wants to have."

More than 10,000 copies of the $14.99 calendar entitled Men on a Mission have been sold since its launch last year. It includes portraits of 12 topless missionaries wearing black trousers in modest poses.






The men also were photographed in traditional missionary garb and discuss their religious beliefs in brief biographies.

The 2008 calendar has generated widespread interest with word of it spreading via social networking websites. Hardy has come under attack for depicting missionaries as "sex symbols" and contradicting church teachings that promote modesty.

Others, meanwhile, have welcomed his attempt to give young Mormon men a new image.

Some of the 12 models have also been called to disciplinary meetings but none have been punished.

Mr Hardy, a sixth-generation Mormon whose parents live in Utah, said the church council had done "what they believed was right and I really do feel it was the best decision for both of us."

He added that the calendar had not aimed to insult the church or its 13 million members.

"The project is about stepping outside the stereotypes and stepping outside of the image," he said. "Not everybody fits the image and I let them know we're not trying to portray an image for the entire church."

On his MySpace page, where he introduces himself as "Chad - the producer of the infamous Men on a Mission calendar", Hardy writes he was inspired to create the "humorous 'beefcake' calendar" in part to provoke dialogue about his and other faiths.

"In all seriousness, this calendar has created a really cool phenomenon. It has created interfaith dialogue all over the world," he writes.

"The men in the calendar have reached out to the world in a brave and bold way without the intention to convert anyone, except present a message of friendship and tolerance - and show that they are imperfect and human just like everyone else. (And can have a sense of humour about their religion)."

He adds that he plans to "continue to stand up for what I believe in" and "the 2009 Calendar will go on sale September 1, and each year following as long as we have people that will buy it and support the cause."

Frank E Davie, leader of a group of Mormon congregations in the Las Vegas area, confirmed the 12-member council's decision but would not comment further.

Once excommunicated, a person can still attend services but is removed from official church rolls, prohibited from receiving the sacrament, entering church temples and performing church callings such as teaching or preaching during meetings.


addendum:
of all the answers and posts on yahoo i did yesterday this answer was considered a violation ! what do you think?

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Deleted Answer: Some people are made Examples Some people are forgiven and their sins are covered with love and forgiveness. after all it says Love covers a multitude of sinsOnce excommunicated, a person can still attend services but is removed from official church rolls, prohibited from receiving the sacrament, entering church temples and performing church callings such as teaching or preaching during meetings. Quotei remember reading the miracle of forgiveness and for first time reading what spencer kimbal said about men going topless. i was shocked. i dont remember the exact quote but i do know it was prohibited. I also never go topless. in fact for many years i wouldnt wear anything but turtle-necks and I havent gone to a public pool or a swimming hole anywhwere since 1980's. but thats my personal choice. there are many things that one can condemn. according to the bible the definition of being naked is halfway up the thigh and over the shoulder. i went to a relief society meeting and found the sisters teaching their daughters how to make "one" piece swimming suits. there is no difference in nakedness even if a girl wears a one piece suit. and im pretty sure young lds men wear no shirts in P. E classes or Gym. and they wear nothing at all in public but short swim trunks. this debate has been going on since before the 1920's. also remember that Nakedness was not a sin in the garden of Eden and God did NOT lust after their nakedness.other notes: if an elder wears his garments anything less than that is nakednessbut at the same time an elder can remove his garments for sports activities, at least according to one source. the elders of ancient israel also practiced "looking at naked girls to confirm their virginity" when men go topless, it has often been a greater symptom of homosexuality. i think excommunication was too harsh, but than again I have said adulterers should not be given the office of elder in the priesthood. but that can be wrong too. Joseph smith forgave greater sins than these before he excommunicated men. and women in relief society should reconsider their positions on wearing swimsuits if its ok to go topless for lds males at beaches and playing in sports without a shirt or to take public showers than a world wide decree should be made that reproves all its members. not just excommunicate one member. of course chad is described as being 6th generation Lds. and he did make profit from an unchaste naked photo calendar. the church might be looking at how he keeps the money or not or how he recalls all the calendars.it looks like i have 3 thumbs down, is this because of lds or because of homosexuals. ?

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was jesus perfect

super jew asked this:
Religious conversation?
I was having a conversation about Jesus with a big fundy the other day and he said that Jesus was perfect and he fulfilled the prophecies, but I said he didn't fulfill them all and gave him a list. He suddenly said "Well no one's perfect", and I said "But I thought Jesus was god and god is perfect". So he got confused and saw the contriadiction and said "Well isn't hundreds of prophecies good enough for you", then I said "Well it's not good enough for god". Well to make it short, he got really confused and still has this belief in Christianity, I'm not going to force him to change nor do I want to, but are fundies really this blinded or is this all for attention?

i reply:


actually the bible does not confirm jesus was perfect, it says he was sinless and that he was blameless.
being sinless is one aspect of perfection
Jesus did say that ALL things had been fulfilled concerning his life.
so you do not know your scriptures. I would like an email of your list so i can compare them.

not all things prophecied about christ are the same thing about the end of the world or the millenial reign of the kingdom.

and jesus did say ONLY GOD is Good, which differentiates Jesus From God as a different personage.
so christianity is incomplete in their understanding of the godhead.
therefore if jesus is not Good, only God that shows some imperfection. which implies again that christianity has an incomplete understanding of God
Jesus was also NOT omnicient while he walked in this life. He learned by the things he suffered. which implies he had to learn and did not know everything.

edited:
actually the bible does not confirm jesus was perfect, it says he was sinless and that he was blameless.
being sinless is one aspect of perfection
Jesus did say that ALL things had been fulfilled concerning his life.
so you do not know your scriptures. I would like an email of your list so i can compare them.

not all things prophecied about christ are the same thing about the end of the world or the millenial reign of the kingdom.

and jesus did say ONLY GOD is Good, which differentiates Jesus From God as a different personage.
so christianity is incomplete in their understanding of the godhead.
therefore if jesus is not Good, but only God is good, that verse shows some imperfection in jesus. . which implies again that christianity has an incomplete understanding of God
Jesus was also NOT omnicient while he walked in this lifeas some believe and teach. He learned by the things he suffered. which implies he had to learn and did not know everything.

i myself dont claim to Know everything but I do claim that i have seen the glory of Jesus like the vision of sun of righteousness.

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Matt. 19: 17
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
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18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

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Heb. 5: 8
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Friday, July 11, 2008

LDS. Can we safely assume Mormons today disagree with the extreme racism claims of Brigham Young?

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable, sad, low in their habits, wild, and seemingly without the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot.

"This will always be so."

Brigham Young 2nd Prophet and President.

Sources:

http://nowscape.com/mormon/*****.htm...

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_white...

I answer this question:
i for one do not hate black people, so the one assumption made by one answer is completely false

the answer might be Yes but there are still some people involved in the old 1950's purity of race values.

my personal studies in church history have proven some remarkable discoveries. http://cid-fff19b48ee821aa4.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/recentpublicfolder/MarkofCainSkinofdarkness.txt

that the mark of cain, and the curse of black skinned is connected to the separation of RACE and marriage and religious beliefs and commandments of God, to Cain and secret combinations and devil worship.

as for the saying of briham young. I have read that. but as for the revelation of the first presidency which allows black men to receive the priesthood has been modified which overturns brigham youngs PERSONAL opinion.
one must also realize that Moses married an ethiopian and one of the books in the new testament asked the question can a leopard change its spots? refering to the ethiopian.
joseph smith clearly taught his own opinion that separation of race is mandatory.
the real church doctrine has it basis in fidelity to scripture and the commandments of God, but false interpretations have always skewwed true translation throughout all history.

the children of Cain were cursed by God to be servants of servants, through the words of NOAH. Did God speak those words or did NOAH. being a servant of servant? if it was the curse of God? is a bibilcal text. and verse.
does this mean in this life or the next?
the sin was making a covenant with satan and forsaking the covenant of righteousness, anyone who was found mixing race with the sons of cain were cursed by god. ultimately after the flood sodom and gomorah were destroyed, so the death sentence is given to men that make covenants with satan.
but Jesus proclaimed repentance and faith. and Peace. NOT every black worships satan. NOT every white man worships God!

antimormons or false testimony

whats the question?
south park I have seen, specifically the episode about joseph smtihs testimony.
it starts out true and descends into a rage of false witness. slander and myth.

i hope you are saying you NOT anti mormon with the rest but YOUTUBE has its own anti mormon videos. I wouldnt ban a single testimony because i sense that some are accurately portrayed while others are more skewed and slander. and false teachings.
death before dishonor might be a false doctrine. forgiveness and lack of defense are are a better reason to love our neighbor.
mormon bishops that DONT believe the church is true exist. Appostles getting excommunicated even though they were sustained as prophets and seers all during their time as priesthood holders. Adoptions rules where bishops and agencies follow unrighteous dominion. ALL Might be true. some might be slander, but it happens everywhere. People in the church are truely NOT celestial, i dare say there are a thousand people in the World that are celestial. and even if some think they are! it might be found out that they only achieved breaking the terrestial ceilings.

2nd coming, or quickly comes, 6 thousand years or thief in the night?

historically Jesus has been testified as visiting his people on many occasion.
joseph smith jr testified that jehova and God the Father appeared to him. but it was not the second coming Per Se. it was the beginning of the last dispensation.
jesus was born in the meridian of time. which means there was three thousand years before he was born which implies there will be 3 thousand years after.
i think the jewish calendar says we are in the 6 thousandth year!

I dont believe jesus hasnt come back, he has come like a thief in the night. He came back the second time quickly! and saints that slept in their graves AROSE and went into the holy city. Saints bearing witness of them.
Jesus came to the americas while millions of people thrived and some already knew of the prophecies of jesus being born. read the book of mormon.

pilate testifies in history that Jesus appeared to him according to the testimony of Glenn Kimbal, historian. Not only did pilate see Jesus, but he became a baptized member of the saints early church.

jesus came and ministered unto the saints for 40 days after his resurrection. He was seen world wide by many traditional and historical peoples.

Jesus never left the earth NOR has He forsaken any of our histories people. it is the lack of faith in history that prevents jesus from coming and his long suffering and grace that allows us each to live and to be forgiven.
I assure everyone my testimony is true, i have seen the visions of jesus christ that prove there is a God and that jesus still lives.

Thursday, July 10, 2008

lucky bunny asked this:

Religiously, what do you make of this quote?

How can we know the truths we seek, when we hear only one voice? A thousand eyewitnesses, together, see nothing. For just one to break away and wander from the gathered crowd, he becomes more knowledgeable, because he sees a different angle.

i reply:
i think that defines Everyone that does not follow a pack. but then again the one who does not travel in a herd is surrounded by a pack of wolves or lions and devoured.
the herds and the flocks sit back and watch in terror. sooner or later it could be them that is surrounded and devoured

to speek plainly We can all KNOW truth if we dont follow the pack of wolves and lions.
and Seek God for answers. Revelation happens all the time. Angels visit men unaware
it only takes the will of men to want to KNOW and to ask and seek and knock. the windows of heaven open up when men are honest and sincere. the wolves condemn the men of vision(s) and rebuke the world for believing in a false God.

so the people follow the wolves hoping they do not get devoured. but in turn their turn comes anyway.

seeing from a different angle doesnt always prove to see the same God that everyone else sees. Angels are KNOWN to have fallen from heaven and lead men astray and false religions are born because the angel is called god.

eating meat, factory raised animals

ATmo disha asked this:

Is it sinful for a christian to eat meat?

Considering the amount of torture and horrific treatment of animals that goes into sustaining the factory farming methods that are employed on such a wide scale throughout the world. If you eat meat and you are a christian are you in fact buying into the torture, murder and inhumane treatment of billions upon billions of defencless animals?

How does it relate to the commandment thou shalt not kill/murder?

i replied:it is a sin for a man to have HIs Belly be His God

glutony is a sin

relating the killing of animals to murder is an error in judgment.
allowing factory farming is a necessity to feed many people. but at the same time it can be criminal in the way animals are inhumanly treated.

it is best to have your own farm and raise your own crops and not pay taxes to government that STEAL taxes to pay for beurocracy.
but the world is inherently deceived and grossly wicked without the absence of a True God to be an Example to the nations. Men will follow what they think is best and which way pays the most money. Also a sin. in some circumstances

it is not a crime to kill animals for food.
but God has also spoken that meat should be eaten sparingly and in times of famine. God Has never said Thou shalt not Eat Meat. but he does not condemn a vegetarian for abstaining from meats.

the bible does say that it is doctrines of devils (liars) to teach abstinence from eating meat and also to forbid to marry.


who is washington irving?

who the hell is washington irving? that he should be quoted?

...as saying: There is in every true woman's heart a spark of heavenly fire, which lies dormant in the broad daylight of prosperity; but which kindles up, and beams and blazes in the dark hour of adversity.
- -- Washington Irving

i would say that in every Man, male gender there is a spark if divinity, does not the scriptures say We are Gods? psalms86:2-6

Tuesday, July 8, 2008

comparing Rev 14 6,7 niv kjv

Revelation 14:6-7
New International Version
Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth--to every nation, tribe, language and people. He said in a loud voice, "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water."
King James Version
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.


midair = midst of heaven,
eternal gospel = everlasting gospel
live on earth = dwell on earth
Tribe = kindred
language = tongue
he said = saying with
give him glory = give glory to him
for = because
made heaven = (does not equal) made heavens
springs of water = fountains of waters.


at first blush! i didnt see anything out of the ordinary but the spirit seemed to say:
LOOK closer!

after the first line i looked and realized that i need to go word for word to compare these words. Even when i Found all the differences in these 2 verses there isnt much difference but when i saw that heavens and heaven do not agree, as both are singular and plural i realize that transtlation and interpretation have another Fault in the word of God that is supposed to be perfect. allegedly.

Wednesday, July 2, 2008

how is God real to you!

God is real, because I first read the gospel of jesus.
God is real because a church first told me he was there.

Godis real because prophets and religion exist!
God is real because the spirit world is Seen by ME.
Jesus is real because in some out of body experience i walked from death into life and back again. I saw Jesus and the glory of the Sun of righteousness.

because I saw Jesus, I know God is real.
because i saw an angel I know there is a God.
because i opened my eyes in hell, i know there is at least one form of life after death and a place of misery.
because i walked into one room and left my body in another and saw a spirit at the back door i know death can be easy as that! walking into another room

God is real to me, in the first person, but He is also real to me in the testimony of third persons.

the blind see life after death and testify of jesus.
believers see hell and unbelievers see heaven. Both testify of God.
There is NO Doubt there is a God, to me.
only to unbelievers, the unrepentant, and liars who worship satan.

a question asked by someone on Yahoo QA
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080702161439AAFLCuS&r=w&pa=FZptHWf.BGRX3OFPgDFVVJRulLiRItSTGtWRr8knnKcoJit9kw--&paid=answered#A4FOPkDFKHXU1Io2BSaP

unions or freedom

have you tried NOT being employed?
even a meager paying job can pay the rent, but even minimum wage does not make people rich.
but its richer than being homeless and unemployed.

Unions gurantee higher wages (most of the time) and hour rates. but seem to have a foundation of Mafia and the mob.
take your pick! be oppressed by the economics of mammon and babylon or be refused a job completely from the system of the antichrist and the mark of the beast. or bow down to criminals who have a price on the soul. or join a gang and run drugs and be like prohibition criminals.

brigham YOUNG condemned the economics of the world back in the 1830's and 40's describing what hardships did to men who worked all day for a loaf of bread and compared it to the kingdom of the Lord and the church in a Free society where people were wealthy when they worked for their own food and more Free than a society that Oppresses wages. Babylon is America, but it is also the rest of the world bowing down to an UNGodly economic system

corruption of wages

im sorry to hear your commission only job sucks. or maybe it is your freinds job!
in most states commission and tips are outlawed through minimum wage laws.

the bible Declares very clearly that it is a Sin to Oprress wages. a person cannot serve mammon and God at the same time.
it also declares that the world is babylon and it is very evident that Babylon is under the control of satan, not of the LORD.
IF only the world would follow the LORD of righteousness we could buy bread without money and food and clothing and houses would always be provided for, there would be no poor.

however many athiests call this a fair tale.

Now realize this, no minimum wage JOB is fair either. the price of Gas happened because the dollar is being devalued. people who work for 8$ an hour are now working for the same NUMBER but less money thats why Gas is Higher in price.
depending on what economic standard you go by, the dollar is NOT war ten cents or 5 cents or a penny anymore.

if 8$ was worth a dime only 5 years ago, its only worth 2.5 cents now.
which means even though people who made minimum wage last year are now only making NO more than 6$
It is Oppression of wages.

what other proof do we need to know that our country is a country of lawyers and politicians and corruption.

but then the bible says Jesus said this:
but then the bible says Jesus said this:
Matt 20: 13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
*but did jesus ever really say this?
james 5:4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

hundredfold


and Jesus said: "they" have their reward.

but the same religious beliefs Jesus KNEW also taught that investing and Hard work will GET any man all the desires of his heart.
Jesus promised in HIS religioin that a man who loses wives family or houses will receive a hundredfold iN this life.
and THEN in the next life the greatest promise of all is if we Overcome all things, we will be given all things.

Matt. 6: 1-2, 4-6, 16, 18
1 Take heed that ye do not your balms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
speaking of hypocrites and church leaders

so by reading the verses below you will find that christianity ALSO is a religion that teaches wealth in this life and the next
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rev 21 7 He that overcometh shall inherit call things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

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Matt. 19: 29
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
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Mark 10: 30
30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

hearing voices, experience and imagination,

B..asked this: God really speaks to people?

I have heard of many people at church who claim God told them to do something. Where do they get this from? I have been to church, read the Bible everyday, and even prayed daily. Not once have I heard the voice of God. I say these people are playing with their heads. Am I right?



I reply:
there are many ways that God communicates with man, and believers. NOT all believers speak the truth however, when they declare God has spoken to them.

this topic is a "hair trigger" to the gun that kills prophets and to the people who raise up false prophets.

God warned us that dreams can be a source of imagination. albeit that some prophets or Psychics declare that their dreams are from God.
I myself knelt in prayer and asked to be taught how to pray. I still small voice told me to turn on the tv which was only a few steps away and lo and behold on CBN there was a minister teaching the lords prayer which Jesus answered his disciples for the exact same question.

but by sad experience, i dreamed another dream through Sleep deprivation, i was locked inside a van sleeping on the floor, while the radio was playing coast to coast with george noory. in the dream I was working at Safeway sweeping floor when I began hearing the voices of the radio inside my dream, there was a brief interval and I woke up. with the radio still playing.
the radio content doesnt make a difference. but that fact is, it proved to me that any external voice can be Heard in a dream and can be mistaken for the voice of God. and any person can make a false connection between a dream and being given a message from God.

Under "other influences" mankind has learned mind control techniques. and the voices of God can be heard through wicked and devious mechanism, or secret combinations.

also, listening to Nick Begich I have learned about technology that is called: the voice of God. so it is no longer limited to drugs and halucinations and manipulation or even false angels and fallen angels but can be man own inventions.


ARE your correct? yes
are you wrong too? yes.

there is a God, inspiration and revelation and visions have always been the proof that prophets KNOW. Yes God speaks to mankind but just because someone doesnt Hear HIM, doesnt mean proof He does not exist or will not speak.

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