What is homocidal ideation?
much or most of the country is using the prescription drug Effexor (spelling unknown), and according to dr Ann blake tracy the manufacturer of this drug, last year, added this adverse reaction to its list of side effects. Isnt this so completely evil?
for more info see dr Blakes website: drugawareness.org
Karin replied:
for more info see dr Blakes website: drugawareness.org
Karin replied:
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There are many, many, many seriously depressed people who have found that SSRI drugs like Effexor have been life-saving for them. For those who are suffering from serious depression, antidepressant drugs can be miraculous in giving them back their lives.
However, these drugs are very serious meds that have the potential for very serious side effects. They need to be prescribed by someone who is familiar with their effects, including side-effects, and the people who use them need to be closely monitored for effect. This means that you shouldn't just get a bottle full of them from the GP at your HMO, and just start taking them. Unfortunately these drugs are most often administered just this way: by GP's who have no advanced training in the treatment of mental illness, with no monitoring of the patient for side effects and effectivity, given to people who are ignorant about possible problems.
It is a mistake to try to tell people that ANY of these drugs are ALWAYS bad, just as it's a mistake to tell people that ANY of these drugs are ALWAYS safe and will help EVERYBODY. Used correctly, they save lives. Used incorrectly, they cause problems. Not used at all, and you consign some people to living in the hell of depression forever.
i reply: its not a mistake to say they are always bad! they are the same thing as if you had been drinking beer all night, or a a bottle of wine or taken pcp or lsd or taken cocaine. it is a drug addiction, it is a "spirit" made by the hands of men that cover-up an LIE that is formented worldwide.
take away the source and cause of depression and you will find a common healing in the land. All flesh and mental illness can be healed, without the oppression of poison(s).
JennP replied: "Homicidal Ideation" Rare In Drug Taken By Yates
July 10, 2006 9:45 a.m. EST
Mary K. Brunskill - All Headline News Staff Writer
Houston, TX (AHN) - Effexor, the commonly prescribed drug taken by Andrea Yates in the months before she drowned her five children in 2001, has recently added homicidal thoughts to its list of rare adverse effects. However, Wyeth, Effexor's manufacturer, says it doesn't believe the drug causes homicidal ideation.
Wyeth spokesman Gwen Fisher said that during a clinical trial to determine the efficacy of treating panic disorder with Effexor, one participant in the study reported having homicidal thoughts.
Lat year Wyeth added "homicidal ideation" as one of Effexor's rare adverse events, defined as something not proven to be caused by the drug. Fisher said Wyeth did not notify doctors or issue warning labels because they found no causal link between Effexor and homicidal thoughts.
Fisher said told the Associated Press, "We believe there is no causal link between Effexor and homicidal behavior. In our minds, we've taken every precaution."
Dr. Moira Dolan, executive director of the watchdog group Medical Accountability Network, said Wyeth should have done more to publicize the results of the clinical trial.
Dolan said she discovered the labeling change around two weeks ago while she was reading the FDA's MedWatch November newsletter.
Dolan told the Associated Press, "Families don't know to be aware of this possible effect."
Effexor was prescribed to Yates in varying doses after her first suicide attempt in 1999 and after her stay in a mental hospital in 2001. Her daily dose was increased to twice the recommended maximum dose shortly before the drownings, Dolan said.
Yates, 42, is currently in the second week or her retrial. Her 2001 capital murder conviction was overturned on appeal because jurors may have been influenced by some erroneous testimony. Yates is again pleading innocent by reason of insanity.
Yates' lead attorney, George Parnham, said that although Wyeth should have publicized information about the possible rare adverse event, it will not affect Yates' case.
Parnham said, "Obviously this is a severely mentally ill individual who was on a plethora of psychiatric meds. There's no question mental illness killed those children."
I hope this helps
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004168427
lisa1cares replied:have you ever really read what the side effects of some of the meds they give you. I mean sometimes they are worse then being ill in the first place. take my dad who has Parkinson's disease. he was given mirapex (sp?) and they did not mention the fact that this med was know to cause OCD like symptoms and people on it where gambling there lives way and losing everything they ever had like wives husbands. homes and there complete lives where trashed by this med. now there has been a big law suit and they tell us oh yes sorry it is one of the side effects after we have nothing left. its sick to think how much are the company's that are making this meds keeping from us ?????
i reply: though i KNOW many people have some basic healing with the drugs they have taken. i know that aspirin and other pain killers work, i know penicilian works! but when the entire country is diagnosed with mental illness, i also percieve that what mental illness IS, is not what psychology correctly diagnoses, nor that everyone should be prognosed with pharmecutical panacea. Reading the book by Dr Anne blake tracy and hearing her various interviews and going to her drugawareness.org website, teaches things that most people should know, and would have many doctors crucified if not all the pharmecutical companies altogether.
However, these drugs are very serious meds that have the potential for very serious side effects. They need to be prescribed by someone who is familiar with their effects, including side-effects, and the people who use them need to be closely monitored for effect. This means that you shouldn't just get a bottle full of them from the GP at your HMO, and just start taking them. Unfortunately these drugs are most often administered just this way: by GP's who have no advanced training in the treatment of mental illness, with no monitoring of the patient for side effects and effectivity, given to people who are ignorant about possible problems.
It is a mistake to try to tell people that ANY of these drugs are ALWAYS bad, just as it's a mistake to tell people that ANY of these drugs are ALWAYS safe and will help EVERYBODY. Used correctly, they save lives. Used incorrectly, they cause problems. Not used at all, and you consign some people to living in the hell of depression forever.
i reply: its not a mistake to say they are always bad! they are the same thing as if you had been drinking beer all night, or a a bottle of wine or taken pcp or lsd or taken cocaine. it is a drug addiction, it is a "spirit" made by the hands of men that cover-up an LIE that is formented worldwide.
take away the source and cause of depression and you will find a common healing in the land. All flesh and mental illness can be healed, without the oppression of poison(s).
JennP replied: "Homicidal Ideation" Rare In Drug Taken By Yates
July 10, 2006 9:45 a.m. EST
Mary K. Brunskill - All Headline News Staff Writer
Houston, TX (AHN) - Effexor, the commonly prescribed drug taken by Andrea Yates in the months before she drowned her five children in 2001, has recently added homicidal thoughts to its list of rare adverse effects. However, Wyeth, Effexor's manufacturer, says it doesn't believe the drug causes homicidal ideation.
Wyeth spokesman Gwen Fisher said that during a clinical trial to determine the efficacy of treating panic disorder with Effexor, one participant in the study reported having homicidal thoughts.
Lat year Wyeth added "homicidal ideation" as one of Effexor's rare adverse events, defined as something not proven to be caused by the drug. Fisher said Wyeth did not notify doctors or issue warning labels because they found no causal link between Effexor and homicidal thoughts.
Fisher said told the Associated Press, "We believe there is no causal link between Effexor and homicidal behavior. In our minds, we've taken every precaution."
Dr. Moira Dolan, executive director of the watchdog group Medical Accountability Network, said Wyeth should have done more to publicize the results of the clinical trial.
Dolan said she discovered the labeling change around two weeks ago while she was reading the FDA's MedWatch November newsletter.
Dolan told the Associated Press, "Families don't know to be aware of this possible effect."
Effexor was prescribed to Yates in varying doses after her first suicide attempt in 1999 and after her stay in a mental hospital in 2001. Her daily dose was increased to twice the recommended maximum dose shortly before the drownings, Dolan said.
Yates, 42, is currently in the second week or her retrial. Her 2001 capital murder conviction was overturned on appeal because jurors may have been influenced by some erroneous testimony. Yates is again pleading innocent by reason of insanity.
Yates' lead attorney, George Parnham, said that although Wyeth should have publicized information about the possible rare adverse event, it will not affect Yates' case.
Parnham said, "Obviously this is a severely mentally ill individual who was on a plethora of psychiatric meds. There's no question mental illness killed those children."
I hope this helps
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004168427
lisa1cares replied:have you ever really read what the side effects of some of the meds they give you. I mean sometimes they are worse then being ill in the first place. take my dad who has Parkinson's disease. he was given mirapex (sp?) and they did not mention the fact that this med was know to cause OCD like symptoms and people on it where gambling there lives way and losing everything they ever had like wives husbands. homes and there complete lives where trashed by this med. now there has been a big law suit and they tell us oh yes sorry it is one of the side effects after we have nothing left. its sick to think how much are the company's that are making this meds keeping from us ?????
i reply: though i KNOW many people have some basic healing with the drugs they have taken. i know that aspirin and other pain killers work, i know penicilian works! but when the entire country is diagnosed with mental illness, i also percieve that what mental illness IS, is not what psychology correctly diagnoses, nor that everyone should be prognosed with pharmecutical panacea. Reading the book by Dr Anne blake tracy and hearing her various interviews and going to her drugawareness.org website, teaches things that most people should know, and would have many doctors crucified if not all the pharmecutical companies altogether.
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